What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
ging84 said:
I think those who don't believe anyone is capable of independent though or judgement should not be allowed to vote.
The problem with that is how do you test it?The best way I can think of is to make them read a Daily Mail article. If they believe it they clearly lack critical thinking skills.
captain_cynic said:
ging84 said:
I think those who don't believe anyone is capable of independent though or judgement should not be allowed to vote.
The problem with that is how do you test it?The best way I can think of is to make them read a Daily Mail article. If they believe it they clearly lack critical thinking skills.
Live music does my head in. Can't stand standing in a bar trying desperately to enjoy it while I'd much rather be sat round a table talking b
ks with my mates.
No idea why, just can't enjoy it.
If I've gone to a gig of a band I listen to and know the songs, that's fine, love it.
But in a pub or a local festival? ste. Nothing wrong with the actual talent as everyone else seems to enjoy it....
ks with my mates.No idea why, just can't enjoy it.
If I've gone to a gig of a band I listen to and know the songs, that's fine, love it.
But in a pub or a local festival? s
te. Nothing wrong with the actual talent as everyone else seems to enjoy it....
Blown2CV said:
also when doing your advanced driving test one of the main things used to be that you had to vocally describe every single manoeuvre, describe what you are doing, where you are looking, what you have spotted. It can't really be that unsafe.
You seem to have ignored my point that the research compares people talking on the phone to people talking to a passenger. Being able to talk and drive at the same time is different to talking on the phone and driving at the same time. Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
You seem to have ignored my point that the research compares people talking on the phone to people talking to a passenger. Being able to talk and drive at the same time is different to talking on the phone and driving at the same time.
Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
But as been pointed out before, this must vary enormously according to the nature of the conversation.Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
'Hi Boss, I'm running a bit late but will be there by half past'
'OK, see you then'.
may actually be less distracting than worrying about being late. Heated argument about the Schleswig Holstein question probably as bad as being totally sloshed.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Blown2CV said:
also when doing your advanced driving test one of the main things used to be that you had to vocally describe every single manoeuvre, describe what you are doing, where you are looking, what you have spotted. It can't really be that unsafe.
You seem to have ignored my point that the research compares people talking on the phone to people talking to a passenger. Being able to talk and drive at the same time is different to talking on the phone and driving at the same time. Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
And those few times I have taken a call have always confirmed that a phonecall is a distraction, because when I've hung up my recollection of the driving whilst on the phone is not as clear as all other times. It's like I've been on some kind of sub-conscious auto-pilot.
I don't like that. I prefer to concentrate on my driving and the road users around me.
Talking to passengers is completely different, you can pause the conversation as the road conditions become more complex, they can see that and it's accepted that there is a requirement to pause.
Strangely though I have never agreed with the hand held phone ban, there were already laws in place to deal with idiots driving without due care and attention and the phone ban was a knee jerk, badly defined law introduced because "something had to be seen to be done".
Dr Jekyll said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
You seem to have ignored my point that the research compares people talking on the phone to people talking to a passenger. Being able to talk and drive at the same time is different to talking on the phone and driving at the same time.
Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
But as been pointed out before, this must vary enormously according to the nature of the conversation.Also, I have never said I think talking on a hands free zone should be banned. Only that there's tonnes of research to show it's far more dangerous than most people think. I think the latest study puts it on a par with being 25% over the English drink drive limit, in terms of reduction in performance.
'Hi Boss, I'm running a bit late but will be there by half past'
'OK, see you then'.
may actually be less distracting than worrying about being late. Heated argument about the Schleswig Holstein question probably as bad as being totally sloshed.
?WJNB said:
We no longer have free speech in this country so some REAL unpopular opinions expressed within earshot of anybody are likely to result in being arrested. Best keep such thoughts unspoken them & certainly not shared on a forum such as this or any form of social media.
When did we ever have free speech? forrestgrump said:
Surprised at the backlash on here to the hands-free issue. Never found myself particularly flummoxed or distracted while talking on the phone, much like when talking to a passenger. But then I suppose base-level skill is also relative.
It has been proved beyond doubt, RRL / Government / Police etc, that it is very much not like talking to a passenger. When on any phone you focus on the persons face and not on your driving.Go for a long run forrest, relieve all those frustrations.
My unpopular PH opinion is that "ditchfinders" can be perfectly adequate for many applications and that they may be a good choice.
Coming from previously commuting year round on a motorbike for years, "ditchfinders" and the other luxuries like ABS and 4 wheels are great.
That said, I have also been in friends' cars where they have been doing things that I would have fully expected "ditchfinders" to have let go. These have not been the sort of cars you would fit budget tyres to though.
I am pretty anal about tyre pressures, tyre condition and tread depth, but I'm happy with the grip of the budget tyres I have fitted.
I'd rather be in a low powered car with good condition budget tyres on, than on a bike with michelin pilot road 5s in terrible weather.
That said, I can totally understand why someone might not fit them on their partner's car if their driving style might see them crash the first time they lose traction, or when doing high speed long distance stuff.
Coming from previously commuting year round on a motorbike for years, "ditchfinders" and the other luxuries like ABS and 4 wheels are great.
That said, I have also been in friends' cars where they have been doing things that I would have fully expected "ditchfinders" to have let go. These have not been the sort of cars you would fit budget tyres to though.
I am pretty anal about tyre pressures, tyre condition and tread depth, but I'm happy with the grip of the budget tyres I have fitted.
I'd rather be in a low powered car with good condition budget tyres on, than on a bike with michelin pilot road 5s in terrible weather.
That said, I can totally understand why someone might not fit them on their partner's car if their driving style might see them crash the first time they lose traction, or when doing high speed long distance stuff.
Edited by bluezedd on Friday 18th October 00:33
singlecoil said:
nonsequitur said:
...When on any phone you focus on the persons face and not on your driving...
I can only assume you mean Skype or something similar.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff