RE: Marcos TS500

RE: Marcos TS500

Tuesday 3rd June 2003

Marcos TS500

In the flesh - it's looking good!


The TS500 made its debut at the 2003 MotorExpo in London's Canary Wharf. Despite being in the company of Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin and various other exclusive companies, the Marcos drew much attention.

Traditional British looks and a traditional British V8 make combine to create an exciting prospect that might lift Marcos into a different league. Loosely based on the Rover V8, the Marcos V8 produces 320bhp in standard form but Marcos are already talking to the likes of ACT about performance enhancements. The show car was fitted with various bits of brightwork to smarten its appearance and it also benefited from a carbon fibre intake and plenum courtesy of ACT - likely to become options for buyers.

The car has received many minor updates over its sibling the TS250. A large grille, minor changes to door trim, a excellent new interior, new mirrors and bigger exhausts are the more obvious differences.

The less obvious improvements include revised suspension, new tyres from Bridgestone, a GRP/composite semi-monocoque body, new wheels and a useful options list.

The changes to the car reflect the changes at Marcos. After many years on the sidelines of sportscar production producing very small numbers of cars, Marcos now has a very different - and very professional - outlook on the market.

Jem Marsh - the 'Mar' in Marcos - is still very much associated with the company in his role as Vice Chairman. Running the company now, and funding it is Tony Stelliga. He's a businessman who made his money in Silicon valley and is now heading up the small manufacturer and hoping to turn things around for good.

Also working at the Wiltshire company is Sales and Marketing Director Alan Wallace. Wallace brings great experience, much of it from Noble and has had a large say in the changes on the TS500. He also recognised the need for achieving the vital price breaks on the cars which now see the TS250 (V6) pitching in at under £30K and the new V8 car at a shade under £35K.

To support the new car, Wallace is working with a number of dealers to establish a Marcos network in the UK. Spread across the country five dealers will become agents for Marcos giving it the credibility and more importanly the support structure to look after owners. Negotiations with the first dealer are almost complete.

It's all looking very promising for Marcos. They now have the opportunity to firmly establish themselves with a good car pitched at the right price. Everyone rolling up to Marcos's display at the show was commenting that this car fills the gap left by TVR moving on to straight six engines. The V8 rumble from British sports cars is back - let's hope it's back for good.

Link: www.marcos-eng.com

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d_drinks

Original Poster:

1,426 posts

276 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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Great looking car very shark nosed in the manner of Honda's S2000 - no bad thing there. Not too sure about the placement of the instruments though. Yes moving the instruments to the centre does free up the forward view for the driver ala BMW’s Z8 but given that you are likely to be travelling fairly quickly where permitted and having a struggle to contain your speed where required having to take your eyes away from the ‘straight ahead’ and therefore the road to look across the cabin seems a bit of a backward step…. not slagging the car off or Marcos but just my thoughts….





>>> Edited by d_drinks on Tuesday 3rd June 09:15

RoadRunner

2,690 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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It's an alternative to similar rover powered chimera's I guess.

guysh

2,254 posts

290 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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Hmm, Alan Wallace moved from Noble - I know he left Noble but did he do it to work for Marcos or what......?

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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Perhaps they have their eye on LHD markets...

smele

1,284 posts

291 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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Some gear change lights above the steering wheel would be handy.

kevinday

12,287 posts

287 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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Looks good to me, I think TVR may lose some sales to Marcos given the price and the fact that it has a V8.

grahambell

2,718 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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Not too sure about the placement of the instruments though. Yes moving the instruments to the centre does free up the forward view for the driver ala BMW’s Z8 but given that you are likely to be travelling fairly quickly where permitted and having a struggle to contain your speed where required having to take your eyes away from the ‘straight ahead’ and therefore the road to look across the cabin seems a bit of a backward step….


The instruments are in the same place on the TS250, and having driven that fairly quickly I found no big problem with making a quick diagonal glance to check the readings, so wouldn't worry about it.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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That instrument layout would certainly make a LHD version cheaper to produce.

Can't see it being a problem in practice ... I can accurately gauge speed from engine note in my Chim 500, and I wouldn't expect the Marcos to be Lexus quiet! Anyway, your mirrors require sideways glances to monitor, so whats the difference?

Its great to see a potential replacement for the Chimaera at last - lets hope it does for Marcos what the Chimaera did for TVR.

chrisj

517 posts

262 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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lets hope it does for Marcos what the Chimaera did for TVR

I agree, I just hope that they're geared up for making the things quick enough and with consistent quality.

lattimer

24 posts

270 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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Maybe Mr. Stelliga had the instrument layout purposely set in the center for future LHD options. After all he is from the USA (a couple hours from me). If Ultima and Noble can get cars in the States, albeit without engine/transmission, then there exists the possibilty that Marcos could do the same. With a BMW engine (like Rover)being the engine of choice ?

Don
Willits, CA, USA

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th June 2003
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Whats with the plug leads lined up at the back of the motor?

marki

15,763 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th June 2003
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quote/ a excellent new interior,

Excellent interior ,,, do you really think so , it looks quite cheap and nasty to me , very plain

bacchus

601 posts

291 months

Thursday 5th June 2003
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I'm in love mmhhh MORE PICTURES PLEASE !!!

cheers Yves

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th June 2003
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Subject to a test drive, car number 3 will be winging it's way merrily into the garage.

Nice car, nice people, great history for the chassis and handling, stable investor and very very nice engine.

Alothough they are going to have to sort out the panel gaps before I accept it!

Piccies at
T500 engine
www.lotus-elise.org.uk/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003%20-%20Marcos%20TS500%20Engine.jpg

T500 front end (very "shark nosed")
www.lotus-elise.org.uk/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003%20-%20Marcos%20TS500.jpg

T250 (hmm....)
www.lotus-elise.org.uk/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003/Canary%20Wharf%20Motor%20Show%202003%20-%20Marcos%20TS250.jpg

J

kevinday

12,287 posts

287 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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Joust, will this be an addition to the Noble, or a replacement?

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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Addition, but a replacement for the Elise (which is getting a bit old and slow nowdays, and I don't like the look of the new one)

Imelda

793 posts

273 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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I knew you were a man of impeccable style and taste Joust.

You know I'll be needing a ride out in it don't you!

Oh, and the Noble.



Errrrrr.. and the Audi.

Ah sod it. I'll just move in. Make the spare room up please.........

pete*s

133 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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joust said:
Alothough they are going to have to sort out the panel gaps before I accept it!
J

It wouldn't be a proper Marcos if it didn't have panel gaps.

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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Imelda said:Ah sod it. I'll just move in. Make the spare room up please.........