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Marcos Engineering Appoints Giles Cooper as Sales and Marketing Director
Industry Specialist to accelerate Sales Ramp of New British Supercar
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England, January 11th, 2007. Marcos Engineering today
announced that Giles Cooper has joined the Company as Director of Sales and Marketing.
In this newly created role, Giles will oversee all aspects of Sales and Marketing as the
company ramps production of it’s new TSO Supercar.
Giles brings to Marcos over 25 years of Specialist Sports Car Sales, Marketing and Motorsport experience. He has sold more than 4500 Specialist sports cars in his extensive career and is an avid motorsport enthusiast – currently running in both Classic Saloon and Heritage GT series.
“We are delighted to have Giles on board as we ramp production and expand our sales and Marketing activities”, said Tony Stelliga, Marcos Engineering’s Managing Director. “His experience and enthusiasm with specialist British sports cars will help us manage the burgeoning demand for the TSO”.
“I have been following Marcos for several years and I am confident that they can make a positive impression in the specialist sports car market”, said Giles Cooper. “I can’t wait to put the TSO’s superb performance, handling, sound and soul into the hands of more Sports Car Enthusiasts!”
Marcos Engineering is a based in Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England - the heart of the British Motorsport Industry. This year the Company celebrates its 48th anniversary of building exclusive, fun to drive, high performance British sports cars. For more information visit www.marcos-eng.com.
Marcos Engineering Appoints Giles Cooper as Sales and Marketing Director
Industry Specialist to accelerate Sales Ramp of New British Supercar
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England, January 11th, 2007. Marcos Engineering today
announced that Giles Cooper has joined the Company as Director of Sales and Marketing.
In this newly created role, Giles will oversee all aspects of Sales and Marketing as the
company ramps production of it’s new TSO Supercar.
Giles brings to Marcos over 25 years of Specialist Sports Car Sales, Marketing and Motorsport experience. He has sold more than 4500 Specialist sports cars in his extensive career and is an avid motorsport enthusiast – currently running in both Classic Saloon and Heritage GT series.
“We are delighted to have Giles on board as we ramp production and expand our sales and Marketing activities”, said Tony Stelliga, Marcos Engineering’s Managing Director. “His experience and enthusiasm with specialist British sports cars will help us manage the burgeoning demand for the TSO”.
“I have been following Marcos for several years and I am confident that they can make a positive impression in the specialist sports car market”, said Giles Cooper. “I can’t wait to put the TSO’s superb performance, handling, sound and soul into the hands of more Sports Car Enthusiasts!”
Marcos Engineering is a based in Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England - the heart of the British Motorsport Industry. This year the Company celebrates its 48th anniversary of building exclusive, fun to drive, high performance British sports cars. For more information visit www.marcos-eng.com.
Edited by AMG Merc on Thursday 11th January 08:07
AMG Merc said:
This year the Company celebrates its 48th anniversary of building exclusive, fun to drive, high performance British sports cars.
Bollocks it does. They couldn't give a rats arse for anything that was built before they bought the name of an ex-car maker.
New car is nice, but don't try and pretend there's 48 years of continuity.
cazzer said:
AMG Merc said:
This year the Company celebrates its 48th anniversary of building exclusive, fun to drive, high performance British sports cars.
Bollocks it does. They couldn't give a rats arse for anything that was built before they bought the name of an ex-car maker.
New car is nice, but don't try and pretend there's 48 years of continuity.
Why do you hate the new regime so much? TS owns (or did) a Mantis, surely he knows about the history of the marque as much as most?
I can see the styling cues of the old cars in the new one, so I see it as much of a continuation as ever. So its no owned by the Marsh family anymore, but do you not think Stelliga has a good opportunity to take the company places that the old management could not?
It's their complete lack of interest in the pre TS Marcos that pisses me off.
They attend no Marcos club events but have attended TVR ones. They cancelled an arranged Marcos club visit to the factory (twice).
They arn't interested in any pho opps or anything with the older cars.
The first proper photo set of the gt was driving around london with a bunch of TVRs with not a marcos in site.
Fair enough, i have no problem if thats the markets your targetting. But don't ponce about 48 years of continuity when all you bought was the name.
Even when they did the rear light upgrade (which now seems to have gone off the website) it was advertised for Nobles even though it fit Mantis and LM500s.
They attend no Marcos club events but have attended TVR ones. They cancelled an arranged Marcos club visit to the factory (twice).
They arn't interested in any pho opps or anything with the older cars.
The first proper photo set of the gt was driving around london with a bunch of TVRs with not a marcos in site.
Fair enough, i have no problem if thats the markets your targetting. But don't ponce about 48 years of continuity when all you bought was the name.
Even when they did the rear light upgrade (which now seems to have gone off the website) it was advertised for Nobles even though it fit Mantis and LM500s.
Edited by cazzer on Thursday 11th January 12:43
cazzer said:
It's their complete lack of interest in the pre TS Marcos that pisses me off.
They attend no Marcos club events but have attended TVR ones. They cancelled an arranged Marcos club visit to the factory (twice).
They arn't interested in any pho opps or anything with the older cars.
The first proper photo set of the gt was driving around london with a bunch of TVRs with not a marcos in site.
Fair enough, i have no problem if thats the markets your targetting. But don't ponce about 48 years of continuity when all you bought was the name.
Even when they did the rear light upgrade (which now seems to have gone off the website) it was advertised for Nobles even though it fit Mantis and LM500s.
They attend no Marcos club events but have attended TVR ones. They cancelled an arranged Marcos club visit to the factory (twice).
They arn't interested in any pho opps or anything with the older cars.
The first proper photo set of the gt was driving around london with a bunch of TVRs with not a marcos in site.
Fair enough, i have no problem if thats the markets your targetting. But don't ponce about 48 years of continuity when all you bought was the name.
Even when they did the rear light upgrade (which now seems to have gone off the website) it was advertised for Nobles even though it fit Mantis and LM500s.
Have you asked them why that is? It could be that they know Marcos owners are assured to continue buying and that their efforts are better directed at enticing ex or current TVR owners to secure the future of the company.
This point about photo ops confuses me slightly. There is a video on the Marcos website where a TSO meets a wooden chassis 3 litre from 1968. Surely they are not averse to comparing old with new?
ETA: www.marcos-eng.com/s3/videoclips.html
Edited by Combover on Thursday 11th January 12:53
Thats an old link you got there.
Goto www.marcos-eng.com and see if there is any reference to pre TS anything.
And your wrong about commited Marcos owners. We probably were, but the way we have been ignored by the new company, I personally wouldn't care less if they went to the wall tomorrow.
Marcos went in 2000.
If a rich bloke bought the name TVR and stuck it on a new car that wasnt built in blackpool or with any of the workforce and made it look more like a morgan than a tuscan would that make it a TVR?
Goto www.marcos-eng.com and see if there is any reference to pre TS anything.
And your wrong about commited Marcos owners. We probably were, but the way we have been ignored by the new company, I personally wouldn't care less if they went to the wall tomorrow.
Marcos went in 2000.
If a rich bloke bought the name TVR and stuck it on a new car that wasnt built in blackpool or with any of the workforce and made it look more like a morgan than a tuscan would that make it a TVR?
cazzer said:
Thats an old link you got there.
Goto www.marcos-eng.com and see if there is any reference to pre TS anything.
And your wrong about commited Marcos owners. We probably were, but the way we have been ignored by the new company, I personally wouldn't care less if they went to the wall tomorrow.
Marcos went in 2000.
If a rich bloke bought the name TVR and stuck it on a new car that wasnt built in blackpool or with any of the workforce and made it look more like a morgan than a tuscan would that make it a TVR?
Goto www.marcos-eng.com and see if there is any reference to pre TS anything.
And your wrong about commited Marcos owners. We probably were, but the way we have been ignored by the new company, I personally wouldn't care less if they went to the wall tomorrow.
Marcos went in 2000.
If a rich bloke bought the name TVR and stuck it on a new car that wasnt built in blackpool or with any of the workforce and made it look more like a morgan than a tuscan would that make it a TVR?
I do see your point but, old link or not, it does show it.
Would you not buy a new one then, when your car comes up for replacement?
I don't believe that Stelliga will do wrong in terms of managing the company for the future, do you not see this as a good thing? A modern, well built British sports car managed with success...
How can that be so bad?
It isn't, I never said it was. What I complained about was them buying a name and then pretending they have 48 years of motoring heritage.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
Edited by cazzer on Thursday 11th January 13:49
cazzer said:
It isn't, I never said it was. What I complained about was them buying a name and then pretending they have 48 years of motoring heritage.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
I do agree with you on the history front. Has anyone pointed this out to the current management?
cazzer said:
It isn't, I never said it was. What I complained about was them buying a name and then pretending they have 48 years of motoring heritage.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
Edited by cazzer on Thursday 11th January 13:49
Agreed. cazzer said:
It isn't, I never said it was. What I complained about was them buying a name and then pretending they have 48 years of motoring heritage.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
I'd like the new car to sell well (as a UK based manufacturer), but I feel no affinity towards it.
It's not a Marcos and has nothing to do with Marcos other than having the badge on it.
Good luck to em, just wish they'd stop pretending they have any link to anything prior to 2001 in press releases whilst totally ignoring owners of the said cars.
Ignoring previous owners I agree is a bit off and probably a bad idea.
However I do disagree about the history. The brand Marcos has a history, just like Aston Martin does. When Ford bought AM they were buying the name and brand first and foremost. How may times as AM gone to the wall? Probably as many times as Marcos? How much does a DB9 have in common with a Lagonda?
AM cars were poor and Ford invested heavily in creating and building the the DB9 & AMV8. Ford even built a brand new factory and moved them in with Land Rover.
Does doing all that not make an Aston a Aston anymore?
Tony is just doing the same, but on a smaller scale.
Yeah I suppose. But then again, Ford could claim umpty years or automotive history. TS cant. (nit picking I know)
If the current management had shown any sort of interest in existing marcos owners I may feel differently. But tbh if it wasnt for Rory at Marcos Heritage we'd be up shit creek (MH nothing to do with Marcos)
If the current management had shown any sort of interest in existing marcos owners I may feel differently. But tbh if it wasnt for Rory at Marcos Heritage we'd be up shit creek (MH nothing to do with Marcos)
Sad to see so much negativity although i do understand a little.On the positive side nice to see someone spending millions developing a british,hand built sports car that we can attend Le Mans & trackdays in the future with.
On that note does anyone with a Marcos fancy joining us on a tour of spain & portugal in april.It would be great to have both new & old Marcos mixing it with the TVRs this year??
On that note does anyone with a Marcos fancy joining us on a tour of spain & portugal in april.It would be great to have both new & old Marcos mixing it with the TVRs this year??
cazzer said:
Yeah I suppose. But then again, Ford could claim umpty years or automotive history. TS cant. (nit picking I know)
If the current management had shown any sort of interest in existing marcos owners I may feel differently. But tbh if it wasnt for Rory at Marcos Heritage we'd be up shit creek (MH nothing to do with Marcos)
If the current management had shown any sort of interest in existing marcos owners I may feel differently. But tbh if it wasnt for Rory at Marcos Heritage we'd be up shit creek (MH nothing to do with Marcos)
It may be the fact that many people see the old Marcos as a bit of an amatuerish setup and that TS wants to move away from this, hence Prodrive, new factory, actually getting the press involved in establishing a high-profile company.
I do fear though, that a 'corporate' image may ruin what made Marcos good i.e a friendly, almost coach-building service.
Doesn't mean the new company is 'not Marcos'.
One could argue that once the original architect of the company went, the company is no-longer what it once was, due to nobody else knowing implicitly what the original vision was, what aspirations were held and what future plans should be.
Is Lotus no-longer Lotus due to it not having Colin Chapman at the healm?
Combover said:
It may be the fact that many people see the old Marcos as a bit of an amatuerish setup and that TS wants to move away from this, hence Prodrive, new factory, actually getting the press involved in establishing a high-profile company.
Probably right. They were, and that was the charm of it. If he didnt like that, shouldnt have bought the name.
Combover said:
One could argue that once the original architect of the company went, the company is no-longer what it once was, due to nobody else knowing implicitly what the original vision was, what aspirations were held and what future plans should be.
Marcos never had a vision. Marcos was an excuse for Jem to go racing. He couldn't go racing unless he sold enough to get homologated. The road cars were a means to a racing end
Anyway...back to my original point. I hope they do well, not going to shed tears if they don't. I don't even mind them buying the Marcos name. It just pisses me off they pretend that they have anything to do with what went before.
They have none of the original staff, they arn't in the original premises (a good thing), they make no parts or panels or anything for any of the older cars. They provide no support for any of the older cars. The new car looks nothing like the older Marcos' (minor styling cues appart, and they are minor).
So tell me, what makes them Marcos other than they bought the name?
cazzer said:
Marcos never had a vision. Marcos was an excuse for Jem to go racing. He couldn't go racing unless he sold enough to get homologated. The road cars were a means to a racing end
Therin lies the problem. Racing is not done for the sheer jolly of it anymore, so on this ground, it had to change. It's too bloody expensive.
cazzer said:
They have none of the original staff, they arn't in the original premises (a good thing), they make no parts or panels or anything for any of the older cars. They provide no support for any of the older cars. The new car looks nothing like the older Marcos' (minor styling cues appart, and they are minor).
Is this the reason why you wouldn't buy one? They're not the Marcos you want them to be? Or are there other reasons...the product?
cazzer said:
So tell me, what makes them Marcos other than they bought the name?
I'm afraid you would know more about this than I.
Perhaps we should leave it at "To me, they don't feel like Marcos any more".
How about that?
My original point still stands though, they havent been making sportscars for 48 years. They've been making them for about 5. They bought a badge that was associated with a company that did make cars for 40 years or so, but it's not them. It's the people they bought the badge off.
As for buying the car. Ni, I don't particularly like its looks. But it does look a quality product.
How about that?
My original point still stands though, they havent been making sportscars for 48 years. They've been making them for about 5. They bought a badge that was associated with a company that did make cars for 40 years or so, but it's not them. It's the people they bought the badge off.
As for buying the car. Ni, I don't particularly like its looks. But it does look a quality product.
Edited by cazzer on Thursday 11th January 16:50
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