Passport Question - oops...............
Passport Question - oops...............
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dnomyar

Original Poster:

367 posts

218 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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A quick question to the mighty.

My son, 15, is due to go to France tomorrow, with friends and their parents.

All packed, plenty of Euro's.

Got to his friends, quick de-brief, passport has expired.

They are going by ferry, from Dover, will he/does he, need it?

No doubt, when his mother finds out, it'll be my fault.

However, the pressing question is, does he need it?

There goes my planned weekend of romance and passion, (fine wine, iced vodka and kinky sex).

Thanks in advance, mods, please leave here for a few hours, need an answer and this is the most read section.................

FunkyGibbon

3,863 posts

294 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Yes.

ENTRY REQUIREMENTS
Passports

You need a passport valid for the proposed period of your stay to enter France.

from here

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/...


Mobile Chicane

22,015 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Years ago you could bluff it. A friend went to France and back having (mistakenly) picked up his mother's passport.

Not now - they machine scan them all.

remedy

2,309 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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He's going to hate you frown

maniac0796

1,292 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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In my experience, he'll get out fine.

He won't get past the fence for the docks at calais trying to come back. Could always apply for an emergency passport or whatever and have it sent out to him?

Austin.J

888 posts

222 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Ring the passport office at 8am, get an appointment as early as possible, drive down to Liverpool, pay £130. Passport in 4 hours.

Had a similar thing with mine, found out it expired the day before I was going away.

dnomyar

Original Poster:

367 posts

218 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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remedy said:
He's going to hate you frown
Good observation, the words used on the phone 10 minutes ago were shocking, not to mention physically painful, oops..............

ali_kat

32,155 posts

251 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Austin.J said:
Ring the passport office at 8am, get an appointment as early as possible, drive down to Liverpool, pay £130. Passport in 4 hours.

Had a similar thing with mine, found out it expired the day before I was going away.
It is Saturday, they go tomorrow frown

You may be able to ring 9am Monday (when they re-open) and get an appointment in London for Monday afternoon, they'll do it in 3 for you usually. Then stick him on the EuroStar to meet up with the friends somewhere? Going to cost though!

Passport £140
EuroStar StP - Paris - £140

Travel onwards from Paris... IF you trust him

Edited by ali_kat on Saturday 21st August 17:30

Mobile Chicane

22,015 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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dnomyar said:
remedy said:
He's going to hate you frown
Good observation, the words used on the phone 10 minutes ago were shocking, not to mention physically painful, oops..............
If his name isn't on the booking they could try smuggling him out in the boot. Then phone the consulate in France and claim he's lost it, or something.

ali_kat

32,155 posts

251 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
If his name isn't on the booking they could try smuggling him out in the boot. Then phone the consulate in France and claim he's lost it, or something.
They look.

If they get caught it is ALL of them in trouble frown

dnomyar

Original Poster:

367 posts

218 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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ali_kat said:
Mobile Chicane said:
If his name isn't on the booking they could try smuggling him out in the boot. Then phone the consulate in France and claim he's lost it, or something.
They look.

If they get caught it is ALL of them in trouble frown
With no wish to "break the law", what would happen if he was in France, then "lost" his passport?

Mr Will

13,719 posts

236 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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I lost my passport in France a couple of years ago, turned up at the port early and asked at the offices and they agreed to let me travel with just my (photocard) driving licence as ID.

Not sure I'd recommend it though!

FunkyGibbon

3,863 posts

294 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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dnomyar said:
ali_kat said:
Mobile Chicane said:
If his name isn't on the booking they could try smuggling him out in the boot. Then phone the consulate in France and claim he's lost it, or something.
They look.

If they get caught it is ALL of them in trouble frown
With no wish to "break the law", what would happen if he was in France, then "lost" his passport?
He could claim that it is lost but when immigration check his details they'll know it was expired - so FUBAR'd.


pipe'n'slippers

59 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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The way I understood it was that you didn't actually need a passport to travel through our new joined up Europe. You do need to prove who you are, so a passport is very useful in doing this, but other forms of photo ID are acceptable. Of course, if your son is 15 he probably won't have other photo ID like driving license etc.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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I went out of Dover last year by coach and did not get my passport checked on the way in or out!

ali_kat

32,155 posts

251 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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pipe'n'slippers said:
The way I understood it was that you didn't actually need a passport to travel through our new joined up Europe. You do need to prove who you are, so a passport is very useful in doing this, but other forms of photo ID are acceptable. Of course, if your son is 15 he probably won't have other photo ID like driving license etc.
Correct, but in reality - you have to have a Passport.

He'll possibly get out of the country without it, but he won't get back in.

FunkyGibbon

3,863 posts

294 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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pipe'n'slippers said:
The way I understood it was that you didn't actually need a passport to travel through our new joined up Europe. You do need to prove who you are, so a passport is very useful in doing this, but other forms of photo ID are acceptable. Of course, if your son is 15 he probably won't have other photo ID like driving license etc.
The Foreign Office web site I linked to states quite clearly that a passport is required. End of.

UK is not part of the Schengen Agreement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

dnomyar

Original Poster:

367 posts

218 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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ali_kat said:
pipe'n'slippers said:
The way I understood it was that you didn't actually need a passport to travel through our new joined up Europe. You do need to prove who you are, so a passport is very useful in doing this, but other forms of photo ID are acceptable. Of course, if your son is 15 he probably won't have other photo ID like driving license etc.
Correct, but in reality - you have to have a Passport.

He'll possibly get out of the country without it, but he won't get back in.
Hmmm, why do I feel this is not a bad thing?

Changed our plans for my weekend, going to take him up to London for the evening, (and there was me, planning on suggesting dinner for me and M at "the Oxo Tower"), couple of bars and either China town or Kaslik in Greek street, followed by Jazz after Dark.

A new pair of rugby boots, and he may forgive me.

Many thanks for the advice, as ever, PH has the answers..................


stitched

3,813 posts

203 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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ali_kat said:
pipe'n'slippers said:
The way I understood it was that you didn't actually need a passport to travel through our new joined up Europe. You do need to prove who you are, so a passport is very useful in doing this, but other forms of photo ID are acceptable. Of course, if your son is 15 he probably won't have other photo ID like driving license etc.
Correct, but in reality - you have to have a Passport.

He'll possibly get out of the country without it, but he won't get back in.
You would be surprise at how easy it is to get into the UK with no passport.
Mine was stolen in '94 when working abroad, consulate were no use at all and I managed to get on a flight from Athens to Manchester.
In Manchester the girl at passport control listened to my story and just said 'well you're obviously English' and waved me through.
Gobsmacked.

ali_kat

32,155 posts

251 months

Saturday 21st August 2010
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16 years ago maybe!