Unite at it again.
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48,851 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Unite claims 3 to 1 vote in favour of strike action at Heathrow, Stansted, Southhampton, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow.
Dates to be announced.

Number of members: 6,185
Number of ballot papers returned: 3,055
Number of papers found to be invalid: 1
Total number of valid papers counted: 3,054
Number voting ‘yes’: 2,263 (74.1 per cent)
Number voting ‘no’: 791 (25.9 per cent)

So less than half voted.
Votes for a strike 36.5%, votes against, 12.8%, No vote, 50.6%

Onanists.

TheD

3,142 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I am a pissed off with these unions at the moment. Times are hard just now and everyone is having to watch what they have. Companies are going to the wall right,left and centre but what do you Unite do. Call for a feckin strike.

havoc

33,456 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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These people really are their own worst enemy now. Times were when Unions were necessary to fight for workers rights, for safety, etc. Now they just come across as selfish idiots throwing their weight around when times get tough...

Les84

1,054 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Dont want to reading things like this, Im going on holiday tomorrow from gatwick.

Les

Luke.

12,033 posts

280 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Les84 said:
Dont want to reading things like this, Im going on holiday tomorrow from gatwick.

Les
Gatwick - you're fine.

Mutley

3,178 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Ferkin Unite! "no pay rises, only missed targets by 3% etc"
Well I haven't had a rise for 2 years, am not bonus eligible at work, but if i missed my target by 1% my company can say no bonus.

Luke. said:
Les84 said:
Dont want to reading things like this, Im going on holiday tomorrow from gatwick.

Les
Gatwick - you're fine.
Yup, Gatwick is not a BAA airport.

I'm trying to plan a trip to Chicago 31st Aug to 10th Sept, but now i'm hesitant to book flights - thankfully seeing family, so no hotels to piss about with. But this is my 1st family visit for 4 years. (Going LGW via to Chicago, not an option)


porka944s

378 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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i know a bit about this as i used to be one of them, their pay reviews take so long to go through that they are usually 2 or 3 year deals, they keep getting offered 2% rises over this time period, this has been happening since Ferrovial bought them out 5 odd years ago, so at the rate of inflation compared to their rises they are losing loads of money. They are losing their bonuses every year and they have none of their perks anymore. Just because people miss their holidays they kick up a stink, what if it were you? if you have an average office job no one would notice if you didn't turn up. I left as i saw this coming, i feel for them i have a lot of mates still there.

LuS1fer

43,533 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Civil Service pay has been effectively frozen and was only going to be 1% anyway. To suggest people are losing "loads of money" is nonsense, however, as most people are paying record low mortgage repayments so it balances out. For one, I would rather have a job than a redundancy and am willing to share the pain. It's not really a question of being exploited or the Government knowing the workers will swallow it, it's a simple case of economics and a big axe so if more people keep their jobs for the same or even less pay, then so be it.

Unite have a deathwish and no foresight to realise that business doesn't work unless it can make a profit. The number of people who can afford a holiday is going down so if they want to sacrifice not only their jobs but the whole airline then go right ahead because no other bugger will employ them.

Edited by LuS1fer on Thursday 12th August 20:54

porka944s

378 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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As i said 2% over 3 years, and its been happening the past couple of times, they didn't strike last time. So 4% over 6 years is pretty st compared to the inflation we are seeing.

Trevelyan

729 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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porka944s said:
As i said 2% over 3 years, and its been happening the past couple of times, they didn't strike last time. So 4% over 6 years is pretty st compared to the inflation we are seeing.
It's more than I've got in the private sector working in manufacturing. In fact if I worked it out I may well find out that my pay growth over that time has actually been negative following pay cuts last year in the depth of the recession.

Zero sympathy for them I'm afraid. Welcome to the real world.

Puggit

49,820 posts

278 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Selfish wkers - they are being offered 1%, when as above many people in the private sector are getting diddly-squat or even taking cuts.

They have no right to strike.

Dav_s

1,781 posts

222 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Great(!) My wife and I booked with BA to fly to New York on August 27th.

Selfish greedy f**kers.

Polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I'm due to be flying California on August 25th. I'll be damned if I'm not going. This is going to be a long weekend waiting to find out. Wish I knew what the hell was going on.

You'd like to think that they would never imagine closing what is probably the biggest airport in the country, but christ knows what will happen.

Fezant Pluckah

1,711 posts

241 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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I've got a group of 11 flying out of Heathrow on 27 August. This holiday's been planned for 2 years. Looks like the fookin unions could well screw it up.

Marvindodgers

734 posts

246 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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As others have said, in the past when workers were exploited on all grounds, unions had a part to play in gaining basic human rights.
Nowadays, UK & European law covers all of this and unions no longer serve any purpose other than to try and destroy the remaining industries we have to make themselves feel important.
2%? I'd have that - no pay rises for two years now as my company fights for survival. Unite are behind possible strike rumblings here too and that will be the final nail in the coffin! A job with no pay rises has to be better than redundancy and a shrinking job market. These people are idiots!
Ban them, ban them all!!

Busamav

2,954 posts

238 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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porka944s said:
i know a bit about this as i used to be one of them,
I have a mate who works there , thinks nothing of asking for double shifts one day ,then phoning in for a sicky if he doenst feel like it or the sun is shining .

Managing those people must be a nightmare .

I hope they wake up to the idea that having a job at this present time is good .

Edited by Busamav on Friday 13th August 14:10

Polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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From the limited information given on the news websites, it looks possible that if anything does happen it would be at the bank holiday weekend.

I'm hoping with everything that there won't be a strike. I've been planning and saving up for this for ages.

squicky

278 posts

210 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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We've got our honeymoon flight booked on the august bank holiday weekend. Crossing fingers atm but not happy...

Polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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squicky said:
We've got our honeymoon flight booked on the august bank holiday weekend. Crossing fingers atm but not happy...
I'm just trying to stay positive and go on the facts dude.

The airport has never been closed before. In reality they really shouldn't let it come to that.

I know they said that the airports would close, but only half the employees responded to the poll. Surely they'd be able to keep it open with a skeleton crew, I don't know about that though, maybe there is a minimum requirement that have to be on site.

Arese

21,358 posts

217 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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squicky said:
We've got our honeymoon flight booked on the august bank holiday weekend. Crossing fingers atm but not happy...
Got ours booked in September, too. From LHR. If they fk this up I'll hold them all responsible and burn them.