Airline charging for overhead storage bins
Airline charging for overhead storage bins
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havoc

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33,275 posts

263 months

Wednesday 5th August
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https://apnews.com/article/jetstar-charge-overhead...

fk me - didn't think anyone could nickel-and-dime more than Ryanair, but clearly I was wrong.

alangla

6,672 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th August
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havoc said:
https://apnews.com/article/jetstar-charge-overhead...

fk me - didn't think anyone could nickel-and-dime more than Ryanair, but clearly I was wrong.
Been kind of the default position on EasyJet and Ryanair for a while with the expectation that if you bring a small carry-on you’ll put it under the seat. IIRC, Jet2 allow a large carry-on in the basic fare, but they tend to tag smaller items as underseat if you pass checkin. I’m sure with any airline you’d find the crew urging passengers to put things under the seats if the lockers were full.

keo

2,933 posts

198 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Not surprised after a recent flight and the amount of bags people bring on with them. Hardly fair when someone with one bag hasn’t got anywhere to put it because someone has bought 3/4 bags on board with them.

vikingaero

13,075 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th August
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keo said:
Not surprised after a recent flight and the amount of bags people bring on with them. Hardly fair when someone with one bag hasn t got anywhere to put it because someone has bought 3/4 bags on board with them.
I can board a plane with one backpack within size and weight regs and get tutted at. Yet you get women who bring on say the same backpack, a handbag, duty free bag, coat, food bag etc

Shirley the next phase will be to weigh passengers and charge/kg?....................

keo

2,933 posts

198 months

Wednesday 5th August
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vikingaero said:
I can board a plane with one backpack within size and weight regs and get tutted at. Yet you get women who bring on say the same backpack, a handbag, duty free bag, coat, food bag etc

Shirley the next phase will be to weigh passengers and charge/kg?....................
It should be. Seen the size of some of these fatties flying! biggrin

Bill

58,343 posts

283 months

Wednesday 5th August
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alangla said:
Been kind of the default position on EasyJet and Ryanair for a while with the expectation that if you bring a small carry-on you ll put it under the seat. IIRC, Jet2 allow a large carry-on in the basic fare, but they tend to tag smaller items as underseat if you pass checkin. I m sure with any airline you d find the crew urging passengers to put things under the seats if the lockers were full.
This. Normal for years. That and checking in large hand luggage at the gate when space gets tight.

Every day a journey

3,044 posts

66 months

Wednesday 5th August
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keo said:
vikingaero said:
It should be. Seen the size of some of these fatties flying! biggrin
I don't fly to Benidorm

CSR Performance

637 posts

16 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Wouldn't need to happen if they just enforced what people are allowed to bring on board.

Panamax

9,398 posts

62 months

Wednesday 5th August
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The former Soviet Union had Russian passenger aircraft that didnt need all the checked baggage and carousels nonsense. You entered downstairs with all your bags, stowed them on shelves and then went upstairs to the passenger cabin.

It didn't catch on, not least because after collapse of the Soviet Union their airlines switched to quieter, more fuel-efficient Western aircraft.

Hill92

5,391 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th August
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alangla said:
Been kind of the default position on EasyJet and Ryanair for a while with the expectation that if you bring a small carry-on you ll put it under the seat. IIRC, Jet2 allow a large carry-on in the basic fare, but they tend to tag smaller items as underseat if you pass checkin. I m sure with any airline you d find the crew urging passengers to put things under the seats if the lockers were full.
Even some of the legacy carriers now have 'personal item only' Economy Light/Basic fares.

Griffith4ever

6,763 posts

63 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Ryanair and Easyjet have charged for overhead storage for years. You won't have noticed if you pay extra for "speedy" boarding and or "pay-for-seat-selection" (both sucker tax unless you really do want overhead luggage) as that's what they bundle it with.

We travel with underseat bags only in the EU - saves a lot of money and its quite surprising how much you can fit in the regulation sized small bag.

alangla

6,672 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th August
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vikingaero said:
I can board a plane with one backpack within size and weight regs and get tutted at. Yet you get women who bring on say the same backpack, a handbag, duty free bag, coat, food bag etc

Shirley the next phase will be to weigh passengers and charge/kg?....................
Airport shopping has always been exempt from the baggage limits. Your other passenger seems to be carrying a large carry-on bag, a personal item (handbag), 2 airport shopping bags (debatable, you’re definitely allowed one but I can’t imagine any airline will stop you as long as it’s not ridiculous) and wearing a coat. That fits most airline’s definition of what you’d get if you paid for 1 large carry-on bag.

witko999

721 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th August
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I wish they'd divvy up the overhead bins into smaller sections, and have one section allocated to one seat. If your bag doesn't fit into your bin then you can't board. I hate all the morons that queue for 45 minutes at the gate so that they can dominate the luggage space.

Hill92

5,391 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th August
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witko999 said:
I wish they'd divvy up the overhead bins into smaller sections, and have one section allocated to one seat. If your bag doesn't fit into your bin then you can't board. I hate all the morons that queue for 45 minutes at the gate so that they can dominate the luggage space.
Can't do that because there isn't actually 1 space per seat. Airlines and manufacturers operate on the basis that not every passenger will have a maximum size carry on bag.

ExBoringVolvoDriver

11,795 posts

71 months

Wednesday 5th August
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vikingaero said:
I can board a plane with one backpack within size and weight regs and get tutted at. Yet you get women who bring on say the same backpack, a handbag, duty free bag, coat, food bag etc

Shirley the next phase will be to weigh passengers and charge/kg?....................
My wife has been saying this for years! And it’s not just the luggage issue, it’s when you have to sit next to one of the larger types as well. On our recent flights in Canada there were several people that you really wouldn’t want sitting next to you.

The amount of carry on that people take on North American internal flights is ridiculous.

Mr_J

535 posts

75 months

Wednesday 5th August
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KLM are changing their policy later this year and will make you pay for an overhead bag in addition to a personal item. It appears reasonably priced, I'm sure it's c£20 each way. My Flying Blue status will allow me to check a bag in the hold for free but I'll still have to pay for an overhead bag.

I flew from Athens to Amsterdam yesterday and they were taking carry on cases away from any passenger boarding in Zone 4. The result was that the overhead bins were half empty. I did wonder whether the aggressive tone with passengers was really worth it.

halfpenny43

1,081 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Mr_J said:
KLM are changing their policy later this year and will make you pay for an overhead bag in addition to a personal item. It appears reasonably priced, I'm sure it's c£20 each way. My Flying Blue status will allow me to check a bag in the hold for free but I'll still have to pay for an overhead bag.

I flew from Athens to Amsterdam yesterday and they were taking carry on cases away from any passenger boarding in Zone 4. The result was that the overhead bins were half empty. I did wonder whether the aggressive tone with passengers was really worth it.
Yeah - KLM are pretty militant at the gate before boarding asking passengers to give up their trolleys for free or be refused boarding

havoc

Original Poster:

33,275 posts

263 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Mr_J said:
I did wonder whether the aggressive tone with passengers was really worth it.
Depends on whether they want repeat business.

When I travel on holiday, my carry-on is mainly camera kit - I've got £3-4k of stuff on me usually at replacement prices (more at new-for-old), which of course wouldn't be secure in the hold - I'll actively avoid airlines that behave like that.
(It's in a rucksack not a wheeled case, but that doesn't seem to matter if you're at the back of the queue)

Mr_J

535 posts

75 months

Wednesday 5th August
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halfpenny43 said:
Yeah - KLM are pretty militant at the gate before boarding asking passengers to give up their trolleys for free or be refused boarding
I've probably taken 40+ KLM flights in the last year and have never seen them being *that* aggressive. Boarding at Athens is always chaotic, yesterday stood out as being unusual. They must have taken 15+ cases, they were checking everyone's boarding passes.

Mrs J was travelling with me and they wanted to take her case. The first person who asked was fine when I explained she was my wife. The second person who asked 1 minute later was adamant her case had to go in the hold. I will admit that I got a little stroppy in return. She shook her head and walked away.

Panamax

9,398 posts

62 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Hill92 said:
Can't do that because there isn't actually 1 space per seat....
That's the same attitude as "can't stop the small boats". Just man up and do it. Divide the space by the number of seats and set the standard right there.

I've ben on Eurostar trains where utter tosspots get on with their skis and take up four rows of luggage space.