Talk to me about AirBnB - first time renting out a property

Talk to me about AirBnB - first time renting out a property

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jonsp

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927 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th August
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Girlfriend moved in with me leaving behind her 1 bed flat. Flat is mortgage free/unencumbered so we're thinking what to do with it. We're planning to move to another part of the country medium term but a few things need to come together for this to happen which will probably take a few months.

I don't want to sell the flat and just stick the money in the bank as we should be able to make some income from it before plans come to fruition.

I don't want to rent it out on 6 month tenancy as if/when we want to move we couldn't get the tenants out

So I'm thinking AirBnB. The market for similar properties seems to be ~£100/night which is inline with a mid level hotel room. Obviously we've missed the summer season but it's a nice city which attracts business/leisure travellers year round. The flat would be fine for single person/couple but obviously no good for family/groups. The flat was professionally redecorated/carpeted 6 months ago so it's nice order. She's a very keen amateur photographer so she can take nice pictures.

The flat has a much better location than the competition as it's right in the city centre, walking distance to everything. Most of the others are a couple of miles out so we've got a clear USP here.

What do I need to consider?

Do we need permission from anyone to AirBnB it?

The flat's full of her crap (she's a hoarder) presumably we need to get the crap into storage and strip it back to sofa/coffee table/tv/bed?

Do people expect pans/cutlery/kitchen stuff etc?

The flat doesn't have internet/wifi, presumably people expect that so I'd need to get that installed?

Anything else I haven't considered?

Puzzles

2,238 posts

116 months

Saturday 24th August
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Does the lease allow it?

jonsp

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927 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th August
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Nothing in the lease specifically disallows it.

Given we can't rent to groups who might be rowdy I'm assuming/hoping renters would be quiet so wouldn't attract complaints from neighbours.

Glassman

22,946 posts

220 months

Saturday 24th August
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jonsp said:
Do people expect pans/cutlery/kitchen stuff etc?

A basic set, yes. Enough crockery and cutlery to cater for number occupants.

The flat doesn't have internet/wifi, presumably people expect that so I'd need to get that installed?

Yes, I think so.

Anything else I haven't considered?

Have a look at what similar properties are advertised with.
An itinerary of what is in the property is a must. Remove/lock up what is not included. Draw up some clear instructions along with a welcome note. Showing that you have taken steps to make the stay a pleasant one rather than set up traps to catch people out will create the right environment. You will get the opportunity to accept or refuse a prospective ABNBer.



98elise

27,797 posts

166 months

Saturday 24th August
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How are you going to clean between guests, and do check in check out?

Yes you should have WiFi. It's a basic service these days.

jonsp

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927 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th August
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Both of us work from home and we're only 2 miles away so either/or can meet/greet guests. She's very efficient at cleaning so is happy to take that on.

Hoping singles/couples won't cause too many cleaning issues.

leyorkie

1,678 posts

181 months

Saturday 24th August
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Airbnb is one way however we use Sykes Cottages for a 1 bed 2 people cottage. It could be the market but it works for us. Full from end March to November with next year filling up. Sykes deal with everything and let the cleaner know when change overs are needed, usually weekly stays. It can be a pain if you have short stays you need a lot of bedding, the cleaner uses a laundry service, can be a chore washing drying and ironing sheets guests expect hotel standards
You should have all electrical items tested, a fire risk assessment ( no candles foe example)
Every body expects a smart tv so they can use Netflix et al, Bluetooth speaker,coffee makers etc
Just think what you would like if you were stay there and start from there.

rlw

3,387 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th August
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If you are city centre, then look at lots of single night bookings, maybe two, with the odd longer one thrown in. For longer/one week bookings you need the seaside or a similar attraction.

Where will guests park?

It can be bloody hard work. We have just finished a seven day stint of single nights. Over £1400 in the bank but a lot of disruption.

You will need everything mentioned above and nice sheets and towels. The place will need to be kept spotless to get good reviews.

And the rules are changing too, so less to offset against income and, yes, Airbnb do report to HMRC.


Edited by rlw on Saturday 24th August 16:05

ooid

4,451 posts

105 months

Saturday 24th August
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jonsp said:
What do I need to consider?

1-)Do we need permission from anyone to AirBnB it?

2-)The flat's full of her crap (she's a hoarder) presumably we need to get the crap into storage and strip it back to sofa/coffee table/tv/bed?

3-)Do people expect pans/cutlery/kitchen stuff etc?

4-)The flat doesn't have internet/wifi, presumably people expect that so I'd need to get that installed?

5-)Anything else I haven't considered?
1-)Check the legals first. Leasehold agreement and etc.. for AirBnb and you might want to check the local authority rules on these.
2-) De*clutter it, sell what you can and give what you can't. Storage not worth it imho.
3-) Very basic enough, you do not need a full kitchen set... Kettle, a clean coffee machine maybe and a pan or a basic set of cutlery enough.
4-) Depends on your visitor type. If mostly UK based, who needs WIFI ? Everyone has unlimited data with their phone plans nowadays. For overseas visitors, you might need it.

5-) IS everything working in condition ? Heating, Plumbing, electricity and etc...


Test it for a month or so, without testing your local market you never know. AirBnb is basically 'serviced - apartments' so you are running a hotel, people requests random things.

Hugo Stiglitz

38,038 posts

216 months

Saturday 24th August
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Personally I'd get a cleaner in.

If you have to clean st streaks even once a week that's too much...

leyorkie

1,678 posts

181 months

Sunday 25th August
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Disagree on the Wi-Fi cold wet nights film on the smart tv and a takeaway

jonsp

Original Poster:

927 posts

161 months

Monday 26th August
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Agree with you on wifi being essential. The TV isn't smart so that'll need upgrading - seems we can do that for ~£250 which seems like money well spent.

TV is 40" which I think is too small for size of room. Years ago somebody told me a formula to calculate the optimum screen size based on distance from TV -> sofa but can't remember what it was. Does anyone know?

98elise

27,797 posts

166 months

Monday 26th August
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jonsp said:
Agree with you on wifi being essential. The TV isn't smart so that'll need upgrading - seems we can do that for ~£250 which seems like money well spent.

TV is 40" which I think is too small for size of room. Years ago somebody told me a formula to calculate the optimum screen size based on distance from TV -> sofa but can't remember what it was. Does anyone know?
40 inch is fine for an AirBnB. No need to replace it, just get a chrome cast, firestick or roku and leave instructions on how to use it. Will be about £30.

Rob 131 Sport

2,982 posts

57 months

Monday 26th August
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I’d be quite clear on your policy as regards dogs.

Self entitled dog owners will soon ruin your property. I always check the dog policy on any prospective holiday rental whether that be a mobile home, villa or apartment. This also extends to hotels.

I know a few people that rent out holiday properties and regret the day they relented and permitted dogs.

Hugo Stiglitz

38,038 posts

216 months

Monday 26th August
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I wouldn't stay anywhere that allows dogs.

Rob 131 Sport

2,982 posts

57 months

Monday 26th August
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I wouldn't stay anywhere that allows dogs.
beer

You have to do some research and ask some probing questions of the proprietors.

jonsp

Original Poster:

927 posts

161 months

Monday 26th August
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Rob 131 Sport said:
I’d be quite clear on your policy as regards dogs.

Self entitled dog owners will soon ruin your property. I always check the dog policy on any prospective holiday rental whether that be a mobile home, villa or apartment. This also extends to hotels.

I know a few people that rent out holiday properties and regret the day they relented and permitted dogs.
No prospect of allowing dogs. Even if I wanted to the lease bans dogs.