Passport and boarding pass
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A simple question more for interest than anything else.
Why, when hoping the queue for bag drop, does a ground agent check passport and boarding pass?
The machine scans boarding pass / passport to identify you prior to allowing you to bag drop.
The security barriers scan your boarding pass.
Border Security / immigration / gate check your passport.
Why do I need to have them checked at the start?
Why, when hoping the queue for bag drop, does a ground agent check passport and boarding pass?
The machine scans boarding pass / passport to identify you prior to allowing you to bag drop.
The security barriers scan your boarding pass.
Border Security / immigration / gate check your passport.
Why do I need to have them checked at the start?
If you don't need to check in or drop bags, the first point your passport gets checked is at the gate. I guess that having them checked at the start is just a check to make sure everyone is the right line / airline location?
Boarding pass for security I assume is part of security measures "airside".
For an internal EU flight its a single passport check at the gate, although interestingly at Nice airport last week my boarding pass was scanned to get into the security line and then again by the scanner machine agent. I did wonder what the point of it was, considering I cant get access to that area without doing it already.
Boarding pass for security I assume is part of security measures "airside".
For an internal EU flight its a single passport check at the gate, although interestingly at Nice airport last week my boarding pass was scanned to get into the security line and then again by the scanner machine agent. I did wonder what the point of it was, considering I cant get access to that area without doing it already.
For the most part it's just to ensure that people are on the right line/area. It helps to reduce the time people spend queueing.
You don't know how much this helps until you've gone to a large airport without this and realised just how bad the fuster-cluck is. People are dumb, they seem to get dumber at airports.
Secondarily it's to help stop people from getting on the wrong flight/dropping their bag off with the wrong airlije. Happens more often than you think and it's not always picked up later on.
You don't know how much this helps until you've gone to a large airport without this and realised just how bad the fuster-cluck is. People are dumb, they seem to get dumber at airports.
Secondarily it's to help stop people from getting on the wrong flight/dropping their bag off with the wrong airlije. Happens more often than you think and it's not always picked up later on.
captain_cynic said:
For the most part it's just to ensure that people are on the right line/area. It helps to reduce the time people spend queueing.
You don't know how much this helps until you've gone to a large airport without this and realised just how bad the fuster-cluck is. People are dumb, they seem to get dumber at airports.
Secondarily it's to help stop people from getting on the wrong flight/dropping their bag off with the wrong airlije. Happens more often than you think and it's not always picked up later on.
This would be my reasoning too. You don't know how much this helps until you've gone to a large airport without this and realised just how bad the fuster-cluck is. People are dumb, they seem to get dumber at airports.
Secondarily it's to help stop people from getting on the wrong flight/dropping their bag off with the wrong airlije. Happens more often than you think and it's not always picked up later on.
What I find bizarre about the whole flying thing isn’t all the security before and after arriving in a country, but then you just have this old honour system when picking up your bags at baggage reclaim.
I believe it is two things:
1)the airline is fined/carries the cost for people travelling without the required documents for the destination country. The airline typically wont let you check-in if you require a visa for the destination country - they insist on a 'visa check' before checkin. For everyone else they will check travel docs in advance of boarding or electronically. This is because if on arrival at the destination you are not granted entry by local immigration then the airline carries the cost (and usually a fine) for returning you to where you started the journey. Airlines often are required to share ID/travel docs with most destination countries before departure too.
2) to make sure the person travelling is the person who purchased the ticket - more of a US thing, but done to avoid 'touts' reselling discount tickets
1)the airline is fined/carries the cost for people travelling without the required documents for the destination country. The airline typically wont let you check-in if you require a visa for the destination country - they insist on a 'visa check' before checkin. For everyone else they will check travel docs in advance of boarding or electronically. This is because if on arrival at the destination you are not granted entry by local immigration then the airline carries the cost (and usually a fine) for returning you to where you started the journey. Airlines often are required to share ID/travel docs with most destination countries before departure too.
2) to make sure the person travelling is the person who purchased the ticket - more of a US thing, but done to avoid 'touts' reselling discount tickets
parabolica said:
This would be my reasoning too.
What I find bizarre about the whole flying thing isn’t all the security before and after arriving in a country, but then you just have this old honour system when picking up your bags at baggage reclaim.
When flying to proper sWhat I find bizarre about the whole flying thing isn’t all the security before and after arriving in a country, but then you just have this old honour system when picking up your bags at baggage reclaim.
tholes with no honour they regularly check your baggage against ticket/receipt before letting you leave. Have experienced this in various third world danger zones, Russia and bhx.junglie said:
A simple question more for interest than anything else.
Why, when hoping the queue for bag drop, does a ground agent check passport and boarding pass?
The machine scans boarding pass / passport to identify you prior to allowing you to bag drop.
The security barriers scan your boarding pass.
Border Security / immigration / gate check your passport.
Why do I need to have them checked at the start?
Bombs.Why, when hoping the queue for bag drop, does a ground agent check passport and boarding pass?
The machine scans boarding pass / passport to identify you prior to allowing you to bag drop.
The security barriers scan your boarding pass.
Border Security / immigration / gate check your passport.
Why do I need to have them checked at the start?
If you don't check that the person putting the bag on the aircraft is actually the person flying, then...
Most of the bag drop machines I have used only check the boarding card, and even if one did check passports, could it do the facial recognition to know that the passport belonged to the person presenting it?
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