France - Do I Really Need The V5?

France - Do I Really Need The V5?

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KTMsm

Original Poster:

27,405 posts

269 months

Thursday 30th May
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Google tells me that I need to carry the V5 to my van and motorcycle that I'm taking on holiday to France

Are they happy with a photo or a scan ?

Same question with insurance details

I'd rather not take originals with me, particularly when they tend to get stroppy about carrying a motorcycle in a van in case you intend to sell it - to have the ownership papers with it seems counterproductive


paulwirral

3,314 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th May
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I’ve been checked a couple of times but I was there a few times a year and had the correct docs .
Only you can decide but many years ago I picked a mate up from Malaga airport in a French registered car and for stopping in the wrong place and not having my license with me I got a fine and towed away followed by a 2 and a half hour round taxi trip to retrieve the car .
Don’t under estimate the jobs worth person in authority , especially now !

ferret50

1,452 posts

15 months

Friday 31st May
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Because I could not produce vehicle documents when stopped in Portugal.....they were in my apartment 500 yards down the road....I was given an on the spot 60 euro fine, and they refused to accept my Mastercard credit card!

As a direct result of this, I now carry vehicle docs in a clear plastic folder which is kept in the glovebox.

Doofus

27,788 posts

179 months

Friday 31st May
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I carry a colour photocopy of my V5, and I have needed it.

Most French coppers don't actually know what they're looking at, but if you get stopped, they can ask for it.

bompey

563 posts

241 months

Friday 31st May
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Doofus said:
I carry a colour photocopy of my V5, and I have needed it.

Most French coppers don't actually know what they're looking at, but if you get stopped, they can ask for it.
I did this recently when I went to France and Germany. It wasn’t needed but at least I could provide something if asked. Who knows whether they would have been happy with it though?

Scarletpimpofnel

864 posts

24 months

Friday 31st May
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Doofus said:
I carry a colour photocopy of my V5, and I have needed it.

Most French coppers don't actually know what they're looking at, but if you get stopped, they can ask for it.
Thanks. Good photocopies seem the way to go.

Truckosaurus

11,884 posts

290 months

Friday 31st May
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Just carry the original one and a print out of your insurance. Very worst case scenario is you lose it and have to pay £25 for a new one.

Or just not bother. Faffing about with high quality photocopies just seems a waste of effort all round and the worst of both worlds (ie. you are still scuppered if a jobsworth flic wants to see the originals).

Doofus

27,788 posts

179 months

Friday 31st May
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Truckosaurus said:
Just carry the original one and a print out of your insurance. Very worst case scenario is you lose it and have to pay £25 for a new one.

Or just not bother. Faffing about with high quality photocopies just seems a waste of effort all round and the worst of both worlds (ie. you are still scuppered if a jobsworth flic wants to see the originals).
The police were perfectly happy with my photocopy.

I have a colour laser printer, so I didn't have to "faff about" with photocopies.

Plus, getting a photocopy seems to me to be a lot less effort than needing to apply (and pay) for a replacement V5.

Rushjob

1,948 posts

264 months

Friday 31st May
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Truckosaurus said:
Just carry the original one and a print out of your insurance. Very worst case scenario is you lose it and have to pay £25 for a new one.

Or just not bother. Faffing about with high quality photocopies just seems a waste of effort all round and the worst of both worlds (ie. you are still scuppered if a jobsworth flic wants to see the originals).
This ^^ do you perhaps carry a photocopy of your passport too in car you lose the original?

I lived there and still carried my originals, as I do now in Spain. It really is not worth it as your chances of winning the argument at the side of the road in a foreign country are pretty much zero.

tog

4,600 posts

234 months

Friday 31st May
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I got stopped and asked for documents once in France and didn't have them (not my car!) so the copper just shrugged and sent me on my way!

Car bon

4,897 posts

70 months

Friday 31st May
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No-one can give you a definitive answer - so it depends on your attitude to risk.

I spend 6 months / year in France and have done for many years - I've never needed my V5 even when being fined for speeding. However, one day I just might....

Rushjob

1,948 posts

264 months

Saturday 1st June
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Car bon said:
No-one can give you a definitive answer - so it depends on your attitude to risk.

I spend 6 months / year in France and have done for many years - I've never needed my V5 even when being fined for speeding. However, one day I just might....
This ^^

Lived in France for 8 years, stopped numerous times at roadside controles, needed my V5 at first whilst importing the car, then my carte grise numerous times.

Anyway

The definitive answer is covered by French law.

Documents are mentioned in the law.

Not copies, scans or facsimiles but documents.

With France operating under the Code Civil, there is no room for interpretation or discussion, it is codified in law that you will produce the relevant document or be fined, then fined a lot more if you don't produce it within 5 days.




ferret50

1,452 posts

15 months

Saturday 1st June
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If one is going to play abroad, then you really should play by their rules. Atitude does matter, and attempting to speaka da lingo also helps.

Guyr

2,272 posts

288 months

Saturday 1st June
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I always take it.

French Police do not have a sense of humour, nor Germans or Belgians and I've been stopped/fined/prosecuted at least once by all three (though not for many years now). The experience goes considerably smoother if you can produce all the documentation they ask for, as required by law.

I cannot see why you'd be worried about losing it, how would you? It's also a lot less valuable and easier to replace than a passport, phone, bank cards, money etc all of which is carried by default.

Rob 131 Sport

2,989 posts

58 months

Monday 3rd June
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I always carry the originals when driving in Europe and cannot understand why you wouldn’t given the hassle it may potentially cause if stopped.

Ben Jk

1,714 posts

172 months

Tuesday 4th June
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We always take the originals with us.

Not worth the hassle if you catch a Gendarme on a bad day (which is most days)