Why are ferries to Ireland so expensive?

Why are ferries to Ireland so expensive?

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aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,136 posts

34 months

Sunday 7th January
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Looking at driving over to Ireland for a long weekend later this month. Ferry comes to £284 return Holyhead to Dublin.

Can get a flight for £30 return meanwhile which leaves plenty of money leftover for hiring a car.

Why are the ferries so expensive? Even ferries to France or Holland aren't this extortionate. Cairnryan to Belfast is £60 cheaper, but an extra 200 miles or so driving so not much of a saving.

sparkyhx

4,185 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th January
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Same here, I just can’t justify the cost for a short break. As you say cheaper to fly+hire

……….just look at prices to Isle of Man (not TT time). If you think Ireland is expensive

valiant

11,140 posts

166 months

Sunday 7th January
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It’s so annoying.

We have family over there and would love to take the car but the maths simply don’t work. Ryanair and carhire nearly always works out significantly cheaper if you book ahead and limit your stay.

I guess lack of competition is the main problem.

Mind you IOW ferries on a cost per mile sailed would run them close…

Alickadoo

2,142 posts

29 months

Sunday 7th January
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Have you tried going to the Isle of Wight?

aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,136 posts

34 months

Sunday 7th January
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valiant said:
It’s so annoying.

We have family over there and would love to take the car but the maths simply don’t work. Ryanair and carhire nearly always works out significantly cheaper if you book ahead and limit your stay.

I guess lack of competition is the main problem.

Mind you IOW ferries on a cost per mile sailed would run them close…
But it makes you wonder why anybody bothers to use the ferries when they are super uncompetitive, even against flying

fasimew

417 posts

11 months

Sunday 7th January
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Can you differentiate between uncompetitive and super uncompetitive please?

Bobupndown

2,072 posts

49 months

Sunday 7th January
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You want to price for a caravan along with the car! curse

nuyorican

1,349 posts

108 months

Sunday 7th January
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How does the Fishguard - Rosslaire ferry price up?

E63eeeeee...

4,423 posts

55 months

Sunday 7th January
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aturnick54 said:
valiant said:
It’s so annoying.

We have family over there and would love to take the car but the maths simply don’t work. Ryanair and carhire nearly always works out significantly cheaper if you book ahead and limit your stay.

I guess lack of competition is the main problem.

Mind you IOW ferries on a cost per mile sailed would run them close…
But it makes you wonder why anybody bothers to use the ferries when they are super uncompetitive, even against flying
Have you tried fitting a car in an overhead locker? It's probably that.

bigothunter

12,134 posts

66 months

Sunday 7th January
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valiant said:
Ryanair and carhire nearly always works out significantly cheaper if you book ahead and limit your stay.
Ryanair experience is awful. I despise that airline with vengeance. Best avoided.

mikeiow

5,939 posts

136 months

Monday 8th January
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Alickadoo said:
Have you tried going to the Isle of Wight?
Indeed.
Most expensive in Europe, according to https://www.islandecho.co.uk/transport-website-cla...

Older link: https://www.isleofwightguru.co.uk/blog/is-the-sole...
suggested Holyhead-Dublin was £2.74 per km, whereas the IoW Yarmouth-Lymington was £21.51 eek

aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,136 posts

34 months

Monday 8th January
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fasimew said:
Can you differentiate between uncompetitive and super uncompetitive please?
£284 for a return ferry, vs £30 for a return flight.

aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,136 posts

34 months

Monday 8th January
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E63eeeeee... said:
Have you tried fitting a car in an overhead locker? It's probably that.
The ferries to Ireland are the most expensive per mile from GB. Hull to Rotterdam for example works out far cheaper and is an overnight crossing including a cabin. Cars go on board them too.

aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,136 posts

34 months

Monday 8th January
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bigothunter said:
Ryanair experience is awful. I despise that airline with vengeance. Best avoided.
The only issue with Ryanair is that they require you to have a passport, despite it not being a requirement when traveling between UK and ROI. Stupid requirement imo

bigothunter

12,134 posts

66 months

Monday 8th January
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aturnick54 said:
The only issue with Ryanair is that they require you to have a passport, despite it not being a requirement when traveling between UK and ROI. Stupid requirement imo
Problems with Ryanair extend much further. Low point of our short holiday in France. Can't believe Ryanair flights to Ireland are any better.

Will make alternative arrangements in future.



speedking31

3,617 posts

142 months

Monday 8th January
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aturnick54 said:
But it makes you wonder why anybody bothers to use the ferries when they are super uncompetitive, even against flying
Try taking a sailing dinghy on a plane.

valiant

11,140 posts

166 months

Monday 8th January
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bigothunter said:
Ryanair experience is awful. I despise that airline with vengeance. Best avoided.
No choice really.

My local airport is Stansted and I fly into Shannon (can do Dublin at a push) so choice is limited.

Ryanaair ain't so bad. It's just when there's problems you're generally on your own.

borcy

4,736 posts

62 months

Monday 8th January
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Shorter ferry crossings will always be more expensive mile for mile than longer ones. I don't think you can tell much by doing that calculation.


Flying will always be cheaper than ferry, I guess they are expensive things to run. Plus there's no tax on aircraft fuel, you can spread the cost of running an airport over the dozens/hundreds of daily flights, but ferries might go from a port once or twice a day. Far fewer trips to spread the costs over.

vikingaero

11,045 posts

175 months

Monday 8th January
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Mrs V's parents live in Oil-Land and as she's a teacher, so we are restricted to visiting in the silly holiday seasons. £284 would be a bargain. I think most times we pay around £500.

A £30 Ryanscare ticket isn't a meaning comparison. In our case it would be 4 x £30 fares, taxi or parking at the airport, airport food and shopping etc. We only hire a car in if it's a short weekend visit, preferring to take the ferry and load up.

Riley Blue

21,488 posts

232 months

Monday 8th January
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sparkyhx said:
Same here, I just can’t justify the cost for a short break. As you say cheaper to fly+hire

……….just look at prices to Isle of Man (not TT time). If you think Ireland is expensive
A car club I'm a member of has a one-day, 100 mile tour of the IoM in this year's calendar. I shouldn't think there'll be many entrants.