Florida - and I feel old

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DodgyGeezer

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41,847 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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(nearly) A week in with the (adult) kids and I've realised that I'm viewing things a little differently/practically these days.

Our first car at the airport was a hateful pile of st - a Toyota Rav 4... hated iwith a passion. A thrashy engine, crap gearbox, dreadful driving position... I could go on and on (and on!). Finally had enough after 2 days, went to swap and was presented with a.... Chrysler Voyager. Absolutely love it. Yes the dash plastics are Fisher Price but it's got oodles of space and storage, blindspot monitoring, nice instrumentation, sliding doors, comfortable seats and artic aircon. Florida has turned me into a soccer-mom!

First time here in 6 years so observations about Florida generally...

- I'm not sure if we've been exceedingly lucky but the weather has been outstanding (1st week nov).
- the prices for the parks seem to be insane (especially Disney eek )
- eating out seems cheaper than I remember from 6 years ago
- tee-shirts haven't had a noticeable price increase (maybe $1/$1.50)
- car hire pricing has increased massively
- people seem the be a LOT friendlier and positive than in the UK
- driving standards aren't great!

fourstardan

4,863 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
(nearly) A week in with the (adult) kids and I've realised that I'm viewing things a little differently/practically these days.

Our first car at the airport was a hateful pile of st - a Toyota Rav 4... hated iwith a passion. A thrashy engine, crap gearbox, dreadful driving position... I could go on and on (and on!). Finally had enough after 2 days, went to swap and was presented with a.... Chrysler Voyager. Absolutely love it. Yes the dash plastics are Fisher Price but it's got oodles of space and storage, blindspot monitoring, nice instrumentation, sliding doors, comfortable seats and artic aircon. Florida has turned me into a soccer-mom!

First time here in 6 years so observations about Florida generally...

- I'm not sure if we've been exceedingly lucky but the weather has been outstanding (1st week nov).
- the prices for the parks seem to be insane (especially Disney eek )
- eating out seems cheaper than I remember from 6 years ago
- tee-shirts haven't had a noticeable price increase (maybe $1/$1.50)
- car hire pricing has increased massively
- people seem the be a LOT friendlier and positive than in the UK
- driving standards aren't great!
I bet the weathers nice and we've hopefully seen the last of the HK's.

Didn't you pick the car yourself? That was always the best bit about US car rentals I miss in Europe.



cliffords

1,709 posts

29 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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I don't think the car you hire should be such a feature of your holiday. Enjoy your family time and don't fret about the plastic dash or gearbox.

x5tuu

12,095 posts

193 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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I was out there for a chunk of October and came home on the 5th ... the weather has been exceptional other than 1/2days overall.

I would say yout observations are absolutely nailed on - lots moan about the cost, yes its not the 2:1 days but theyve been gone for a very long time now (last time was 2007 ... even 1.5:1 was back in 2015).

Disney is comical, the other parks really arent though. Annual Passes for Universal that include free parking are c.£500/year and were 15mths for the price of 12. Seaworld park passes, under £200 annually - Bargain IMO.

Even flights to/from can be nabbed very cheaply if you are patient and book at optimum times.

I think the Disney gravy train is slowing as more americans wise up to their gauging and more brits are decoupling their bookings and stopping spending £10k for a simple holiday to Orlando (I could be wrong, but I dont believe I am)

Radec

4,262 posts

53 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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From what I remember if you are still there next Friday when it's black Friday it's manic, especially at the 2 shopping outlets with people lining up at midnight and plenty of discounts to be had.

RC1807

12,876 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving isn’t it?
That’ll be the 24th then.

Radec

4,262 posts

53 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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RC1807 said:
Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving isn’t it?
That’ll be the 24th then.
Ah yeah got my days mixed up, you are correct it's the week after next on the 24th

toastyhamster

1,702 posts

102 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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x5tuu said:
I was out there for a chunk of October and came home on the 5th ... the weather has been exceptional other than 1/2days overall.

I would say yout observations are absolutely nailed on - lots moan about the cost, yes its not the 2:1 days but theyve been gone for a very long time now (last time was 2007 ... even 1.5:1 was back in 2015).

Disney is comical, the other parks really arent though. Annual Passes for Universal that include free parking are c.£500/year and were 15mths for the price of 12. Seaworld park passes, under £200 annually - Bargain IMO.

Even flights to/from can be nabbed very cheaply if you are patient and book at optimum times.

I think the Disney gravy train is slowing as more americans wise up to their gauging and more brits are decoupling their bookings and stopping spending £10k for a simple holiday to Orlando (I could be wrong, but I dont believe I am)
We're booking a first time trip next August, so I'm all over fb groups etc looking for deals/advice. Flights are EXPENSIVE, I know it's school holiday times but they've ramped up massively compared to previous years. We'll get gouged for sure, but we're used to that as we go to a LOT of theme parks. Flights (3 of us), 2.6k, Park tickets, 2.5k, Villa/Universal hotels, probably about the same if not more, and Uber+Food, it'll be 10k+ total for 2 weeks.

I hate extreme rides, I'm in effect a delivery system for my kids, only stipulation I put on the holiday is that we have a day at Kennedy.

u6dw4

69 posts

30 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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toastyhamster said:
We're booking a first time trip next August, so I'm all over fb groups etc looking for deals/advice. Flights are EXPENSIVE, I know it's school holiday times but they've ramped up massively compared to previous years. We'll get gouged for sure, but we're used to that as we go to a LOT of theme parks. Flights (3 of us), 2.6k, Park tickets, 2.5k, Villa/Universal hotels, probably about the same if not more, and Uber+Food, it'll be 10k+ total for 2 weeks.

I hate extreme rides, I'm in effect a delivery system for my kids, only stipulation I put on the holiday is that we have a day at Kennedy.
I guess you'll have your reasons for august, I think mid May - early June is the best time to go if you can, but before the storms start. Hot days and very warm nights. ques are much less, sometimes rides even walk on.
October has almost as hot days but cooler nights and is busier.

Riley Blue

21,488 posts

232 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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cliffords said:
I don't think the car you hire should be such a feature of your holiday. Enjoy your family time and don't fret about the plastic dash or gearbox.
You can't be serious!

Stella Tortoise

2,795 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Parts of Florida are lovely but Disney? Without young children?

Sounds worse than Dubai.

DodgyGeezer

Original Poster:

41,847 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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x5tuu said:
Disney is comical, the other parks really arent though. Annual Passes for Universal that include free parking are c.£500/year and were 15mths for the price of 12. Seaworld park passes, under £200 annually - Bargain IMO.

Even flights to/from can be nabbed very cheaply if you are patient and book at optimum times.
Interesting on the annual prices, that's staggeringly good value (if you're able to come out more than once).

Our flights and villa (gated community 10 minutes from Disney) were c.£900 each for 4 adults - though BA cattle class had one of the most uncomfortable seat cushions I've tried so springing for the upgrade on the return

Sheepshanks

34,382 posts

125 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Stella Tortoise said:
Parts of Florida are lovely but Disney? Without young children?

Sounds worse than Dubai.
Wife and I did it once without kids / grandchildren, but it was when you got included dining at a good level if you stayed on-site in one of the higher band hotels. We also went during the Food & Wine festival and it included food during that. I think they've made the F&W much longer now so it doesn't have the same focus.

If you stay on-site it can be a pretty relaxing holiday although you need to be hitting the parks early - getting up at 5.30AM to get to MK for 7AM early entry was a bit weird, but we had 2hrs with only a handful of people in the park as people off-site didn't know they'd changed normal opening to 8AM instead of 9AM.

Out of UK/US/Brazil etc school hoildays, there's not an awful lot of kids there. A few people with very young kids but I don't know why as there's not a lot they can do.

Matt Harper

6,724 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Could someone please explain to me what the difference is between a "house" and a "villa"?

I live in central Florida in a 3 bed, 2 bath roofed structure with a two car garage and a back yard pool - which is it?

cliffords

1,709 posts

29 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Matt Harper said:
Could someone please explain to me what the difference is between a "house" and a "villa"?

I live in central Florida in a 3 bed, 2 bath roofed structure with a two car garage and a back yard pool - which is it?
It's bragging. Not to be confused with either .

Norton850

714 posts

43 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Matt Harper said:
Could someone please explain to me what the difference is between a "house" and a "villa"?

I live in central Florida in a 3 bed, 2 bath roofed structure with a two car garage and a back yard pool - which is it?
Here in Spain the villas are single storey buildings..

Stella Tortoise

2,795 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Matt Harper said:
Could someone please explain to me what the difference is between a "house" and a "villa"?

I live in central Florida in a 3 bed, 2 bath roofed structure with a two car garage and a back yard pool - which is it?
A trailer?

toastyhamster

1,702 posts

102 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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u6dw4 said:
toastyhamster said:
We're booking a first time trip next August, so I'm all over fb groups etc looking for deals/advice. Flights are EXPENSIVE, I know it's school holiday times but they've ramped up massively compared to previous years. We'll get gouged for sure, but we're used to that as we go to a LOT of theme parks. Flights (3 of us), 2.6k, Park tickets, 2.5k, Villa/Universal hotels, probably about the same if not more, and Uber+Food, it'll be 10k+ total for 2 weeks.

I hate extreme rides, I'm in effect a delivery system for my kids, only stipulation I put on the holiday is that we have a day at Kennedy.
I guess you'll have your reasons for august, I think mid May - early June is the best time to go if you can, but before the storms start. Hot days and very warm nights. ques are much less, sometimes rides even walk on.
October has almost as hot days but cooler nights and is busier.
I know, but outside of Easter and Halloween which are very busy it's the only time the kids get two weeks+ off school, I'm not fond of taking them out during term time, two whole weeks out is definitely not on for me, plus eldest is in his final GCSE year so it's a non-starter for 2024.


fourstardan

4,863 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Are flights any cheaper if you have a stop in say NY/Washington?

I can't say if we went to Florida I'd feel like I was fulfilling my Childs ultimate dreams like what it was hyped up to be when I was a kid and families luckily went to Florida.

Kennedy, Universal, Busch, Seaworld most definitely.

I think I'd need to sell arms/legs though to even think about Florida holidays with what it would cost per day when there (let alone accommodation/flights)

98elise

27,818 posts

167 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Riley Blue said:
cliffords said:
I don't think the car you hire should be such a feature of your holiday. Enjoy your family time and don't fret about the plastic dash or gearbox.
You can't be serious!
Agreed. I always hire something decent in Florida. You drive everywhere so want something reasonable.