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stevemcs

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8,931 posts

99 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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For the last 9 years I have not been able to use a negate, every time I get referred to a border official. Having just got a new uk passport I had hoped I could actually use it. However it appears not

I can use it in every country without issue except my own. I did ask the border officer if I’ll ever be able to use the gate and he just said he couldn’t say

I wonder if the passport office can help without making an appointment

Edited by stevemcs on Sunday 8th October 13:58

djc206

12,615 posts

131 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Mine doesn’t work either. I get a different reason from them each time when probed but I suspect it’s because I have an extremely common name and somebody with the same name is on a naughty list. Might be wrong but all of the other reasons don’t hold water.

CoolHands

19,249 posts

201 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Hmm interesting point. Maybe you should change your name to Urquhart and see if the problems go away. Legal name doesn’t mean much, you could still go by your normal name for all regular day to day activities!

stevemcs

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8,931 posts

99 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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djc206 said:
Mine doesn’t work either. I get a different reason from them each time when probed but I suspect it’s because I have an extremely common name and somebody with the same name is on a naughty list. Might be wrong but all of the other reasons don’t hold water.
I think that’s what was mentioned a few years ago, but you would have thought with the biometric passport name would almost be irrelevant

ecsrobin

17,741 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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I’ve never had any luck using them. I’ve spoken to them a few times suggesting would a new passport fix it but they insist that the chip is fine so would be no different.

stevemcs

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8,931 posts

99 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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ecsrobin said:
I’ve never had any luck using them. I’ve spoken to them a few times suggesting would a new passport fix it but they insist that the chip is fine so would be no different.
Yep new passport for me too. It’s just a Uk thing. I love it when you tell someone it won’t work at an egate and they still send you to one, then look all surprised when it doesn’t work.

r159

2,318 posts

80 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Same for me works ok abroad but not in uk, I always get to have a nice chat with the Boarder Force folks…

ecsrobin

17,741 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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stevemcs said:
Yep new passport for me too. It’s just a Uk thing. I love it when you tell someone it won’t work at an egate and they still send you to one, then look all surprised when it doesn’t work.
Yep had that battle although last time no one stopping you join it but as there was no one at the gate I went for fun to see if any change and nothing. I did suggest they create a sticker they could put on your passport to allow you to bypass them as they must know how many times you’ve been rejected.

djc206

12,615 posts

131 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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stevemcs said:
Yep new passport for me too. It’s just a Uk thing. I love it when you tell someone it won’t work at an egate and they still send you to one, then look all surprised when it doesn’t work.
I managed to sneak past that dimwit on my last trip through Heathrow, I wasn’t standing in a 10 minute queue to find out what I already knew. Guy at the desk saw me doing it and just smiled, clearly knew that my passport wasn’t going to let me through.

GT03ROB

13,536 posts

227 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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There are a multitude of reasons I suspect passports don't work at the egates, but BF won't tell you why.

Historically I've generally had 2 passports. Last time I got the 2nd one, I used it coming back into the Uk when it was barely 10 days old. Nope wouldn't work, neither passport worked. Last year one of my passports expired & didn't get round to renewing it. About a week after it expired I came through on the other & lo & behold it worked in the egates. So I suspect one of the criteria for rejection is having 2 valid passports.

Kermit power

29,421 posts

219 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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CoolHands said:
Hmm interesting point. Maybe you should change your name to Urquhart and see if the problems go away. Legal name doesn’t mean much, you could still go by your normal name for all regular day to day activities!
One can't help wondering if there's a special rubber glove and vaseline queue for people deemed as having "something to hide" by changing their names! hehe

lost in espace

6,276 posts

213 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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FIL had this issue, he got it sent back to the passport office and it fixed it. Took a few weeks.

Suspicious_user

3,982 posts

199 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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GT03ROB said:
There are a multitude of reasons I suspect passports don't work at the egates, but BF won't tell you why.

Historically I've generally had 2 passports. Last time I got the 2nd one, I used it coming back into the Uk when it was barely 10 days old. Nope wouldn't work, neither passport worked. Last year one of my passports expired & didn't get round to renewing it. About a week after it expired I came through on the other & lo & behold it worked in the egates. So I suspect one of the criteria for rejection is having 2 valid passports.
I also have 2 valid passports, both work in e-gates in the UK.

There’s an interesting thread on Flyertalk about this, where it’s in all likelihood that your name is similar to someone on some specialist and you’re being flagged, and to a lesser extend dodgy e-gate machines.

If your passport doesn’t work, just tell the person directing folk to the gates that you’ve been informed by BF that your passport has a faulty chip, and you should be send straight to the queue to see a human.

GT03ROB

13,536 posts

227 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Suspicious_user said:
GT03ROB said:
There are a multitude of reasons I suspect passports don't work at the egates, but BF won't tell you why.

Historically I've generally had 2 passports. Last time I got the 2nd one, I used it coming back into the Uk when it was barely 10 days old. Nope wouldn't work, neither passport worked. Last year one of my passports expired & didn't get round to renewing it. About a week after it expired I came through on the other & lo & behold it worked in the egates. So I suspect one of the criteria for rejection is having 2 valid passports.
I also have 2 valid passports, both work in e-gates in the UK.

There’s an interesting thread on Flyertalk about this, where it’s in all likelihood that your name is similar to someone on some specialist and you’re being flagged, and to a lesser extend dodgy e-gate machines.

If your passport doesn’t work, just tell the person directing folk to the gates that you’ve been informed by BF that your passport has a faulty chip, and you should be send straight to the queue to see a human.
My name is certainly on a special list in Turkey! Always have an issue there & get extra scrutiny

djc206

12,615 posts

131 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Suspicious_user said:
I also have 2 valid passports, both work in e-gates in the UK.

There’s an interesting thread on Flyertalk about this, where it’s in all likelihood that your name is similar to someone on some specialist and you’re being flagged, and to a lesser extend dodgy e-gate machines.

If your passport doesn’t work, just tell the person directing folk to the gates that you’ve been informed by BF that your passport has a faulty chip, and you should be send straight to the queue to see a human.
I’ve had that conversation with an airport employee on a bare minimum of 2 dozen occasions and that’s never been their reaction. I don’t even engage with them any more, they don’t have authority so it’s not like I need their permission to skip to the seek assistance lane anyway

geeks

9,513 posts

145 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Suspicious_user said:
GT03ROB said:
There are a multitude of reasons I suspect passports don't work at the egates, but BF won't tell you why.

Historically I've generally had 2 passports. Last time I got the 2nd one, I used it coming back into the Uk when it was barely 10 days old. Nope wouldn't work, neither passport worked. Last year one of my passports expired & didn't get round to renewing it. About a week after it expired I came through on the other & lo & behold it worked in the egates. So I suspect one of the criteria for rejection is having 2 valid passports.
I also have 2 valid passports, both work in e-gates in the UK.

There’s an interesting thread on Flyertalk about this, where it’s in all likelihood that your name is similar to someone on some specialist and you’re being flagged, and to a lesser extend dodgy e-gate machines.

If your passport doesn’t work, just tell the person directing folk to the gates that you’ve been informed by BF that your passport has a faulty chip, and you should be send straight to the queue to see a human.
I also have two passports (well until just last week) and never had this issue

Suspicious_user

3,982 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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GT03ROB said:
My name is certainly on a special list in Turkey! Always have an issue there & get extra scrutiny
Yeah, IST is not my favourite airport. The arbitrary security checks at the gate on the discretion of some IST employee are just ridiculous.