Caravans only to be driven at night and Taxed.....

Caravans only to be driven at night and Taxed.....

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CRA1G

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6,741 posts

201 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Just been listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio Two with a discussion on Caravans with many wanting a change in the Law to have Caravans to be only driven at night to ease congestion and for them to be Taxed separately to the car towing it.... quite surprising how many are in favour of it....

andburg

7,569 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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its a good job there is no chance such lunacy will happen.

Truckosaurus

11,899 posts

290 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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I believe the UK is unusual in not registering, taxing or testing trailers of all types.

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Click bait radio - he does that subject yearly after BH weekends I think.

The Trucker nailed it though, Caravans, in fact all vehicles, can work together on the roads - if the MLM or dopey non observant motorists were banned.

In fact, that should be a subject:
"Should those who can 't follow lane discipline, be banned to only drive at night"

normalbloke

7,625 posts

225 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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You listened to what now?

boyse7en

7,036 posts

171 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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so, in no particular order, we need to ban (or at least regulate to times I am not driving...

Caravans
Motorhomes
Cars with trailers
Articulated lorries
Horse Boxes
Buses
Rigid lorries
Builder's vans
Quads
Off-road motorbikes
Bicycles


is that right?

r3g

3,750 posts

30 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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CRA1G said:
Just been listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio Two with a discussion on Caravans with many wanting a change in the Law to have Caravans to be only driven at night to ease congestion and for them to be Taxed separately to the car towing it.... quite surprising how many are in favour of it....
So you listen to the biggest nob on the radio and then write on internet forums complaining that he's being a nob.

In other news, water is wet.

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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In my experience cars are much more the cause of congestion than caravans or anything else. I don't mean just generally, due to numbers but the fact almost nobody seems to be able to either a) Overtake or b) Leave space for others to overtake these days.

Sure there migth be something slow at the head of each queue but most of the time the queue itself are cars that could easilly overtake but just don't. And that would be fine if they left space between themselves so faster traffic could pick them off one at a time but no, they sit on one another's bumpers so your only choice is to overtake all of them or none of them. And in a sub-100bhp classic car that's generally none of them!

PurpleTurtle

7,452 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Will not happen in a month of Sundays.

I used to like Jeremy Vine, but he's morphed into a nob appealing to lowest common denominator Daily Wailisms

DeejRC

6,307 posts

88 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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I can thorough support such a notion!

JackJarvis

2,537 posts

140 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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I'm no particular fan of caravans but it's a complete non-issue. There are SO many more important issues on the roads to be getting worked up about.

The Gauge

2,763 posts

19 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Click bait radio certainly. But imagine if it was true..

Caravan sites would need warden cover 24/7 day and night to do all the maintenance stuff during the day (cutting grass etc) and to book new arrivals in when arriving during the night. The Caravan Club wardens get minimum wage as it is, can't see them staying for long. Plus the disruption to everyone else's sleep at night when caravans are departing and arriving.

E63eeeeee...

4,425 posts

55 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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I can't remember the last time I even saw a caravan on the road, never mind getting stuck behind one. I can't imagine it making the slightest bit of difference to congestion.

GliderRider

2,471 posts

87 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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CRA1G said:
...Caravans to be only driven at night to ease congestion...
That wouldn't work, it would interfere with their fly-tipping schedule.

tozerman

1,198 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
I can't remember the last time I even saw a caravan on the road, never mind getting stuck behind one. I can't imagine it making the slightest bit of difference to congestion.
Really!!
You either live in the middle of a large city and don't venture anywhere at all or you need to get out more. I live near the peak district and they are often a fricking nightmare.....

Stupot123

289 posts

114 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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To be fair caravans are only going to be a problem for the next few years.

Once we are forced into electric they won’t be a thing anymore.

What’s an EV going to do towing a caravan, 50-70 miles? . If you can only explore 25-35 miles from your house it would be easier to just go home to sleep than set up the van!

Red9zero

7,652 posts

63 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
I can't remember the last time I even saw a caravan on the road, never mind getting stuck behind one. I can't imagine it making the slightest bit of difference to congestion.
Come to the south west ! Especially on a bank holiday / school holiday / sunny weekend.

PurpleTurtle

7,452 posts

150 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
I can't remember the last time I even saw a caravan on the road, never mind getting stuck behind one. I can't imagine it making the slightest bit of difference to congestion.
I'm towing ours to a music festival tomorrow, 70 miles on the M3/A303.

The biggest issue as a caravanner is lorries. Single HGVs are fine but once you hit the back of a convoy of them all elephant racing at 56mph then you have to make your way past them, often waiting a long time as they inch their way past each other. I'll sometimes hit 70mpf when I do so, but then back in the inside lane at 60mph to chug along at the legal towing limit.

So if people are stuck behind me cursing, I'm probably cursing because I'm stuck behind a lorry.

Yet we all want our cheap st delivered to our supermarkets and from Amazon et al, so there's loads of lorries on the roads - it's not the truckers fault they are speed-limited either.

After a while towing you kinda get used to motorway life at a slower pace. Sometimes I wish I had a CB radio and a handle to join in the trucker chat!

Are CB radios still a thing or am I still living in 1982?


vikingaero

11,049 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Definitely horse boxes. They can't go around corners at more than 5mph in case the stupid nag falls over.

GreatGranny

9,289 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Stupot123 said:
To be fair caravans are only going to be a problem for the next few years.

Once we are forced into electric they won’t be a thing anymore.

What’s an EV going to do towing a caravan, 50-70 miles? . If you can only explore 25-35 miles from your house it would be easier to just go home to sleep than set up the van!
Did you write that all on your own?

Do you think all tow cars will magically disappear overnight when ICE cars are no longer sold NEW?!?