Passport issue date EU travel

Passport issue date EU travel

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Caddyshack

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11,406 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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I couldn’t find a thread on this, apologies if there is.

My passport was issued June 2013 and expires 11 years later (June 2024)

Today I was turned away at the flight desk and had to wave my family off on our holiday as my passport is already 10yrs and a few weeks old (as at July 23 it is over 10). YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TRAVEL TO EU IF YOUR PASSPORT HAS HIT 10 yrs even if valid.

There are warnings in the terms and conditions and I believe there was some media coverage but we forgot or missed it.

They advised me to rush from Gatwick to Docklands to ask for an emergency appointment. After a few hours there I was told by a friendly security bod to try and book a 5 day expedited appointment anywhere in the country and then plead for a same day passport.

I ended up in Peterborough and the nice lady really did try to get it done but she was blocked higher up. I am pretty persuasive and really piled it on…. But I am
Now without any passport and waiting on a courier that will take over 7 days. Holiday lost for me and my family are abroad.

They (family) did want to bin it themselves but I convinced them to go anyway.

MrBig

3,055 posts

135 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Wow, that absolutely sucks. I’m afraid I can’t offer any advice, but you have my sympathies. Seems really stty if your passport is still valid.

cuprabob

15,407 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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It was quite well publicised last summer as a lot of people were being caught out with the 10 year from issue date rule. Here is a thread on it from last year,
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by cuprabob on Wednesday 26th July 21:43

phumy

5,738 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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MrBig said:
Wow, that absolutely sucks. I’m afraid I can’t offer any advice, but you have my sympathies. Seems really stty if your passport is still valid.
But his passport is not valid for EU travel.



Caddyshack

Original Poster:

11,406 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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cuprabob said:
It was quite well publicised last summer as a lot of people were being caught with the 10 year from issue date rule. Here is a thread on it from last year,
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Thanks, don’t know how it passed me by. Odd think is I was in Menorca 3 weeks ago and would have just been over on that trip but nobody noticed.

craig1912

3,609 posts

118 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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phumy said:
But his passport is not valid for EU travel.
This, it’s been highlighted over and over again in various media and Simon Calder bangs on about it virtually every week! And it’s not just necessarily for just EU travel either.

MrBig

3,055 posts

135 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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phumy said:
But his passport is not valid for EU travel.
Yes thanks. I can read.

I still think it’s a stupid system.

Glade

4,305 posts

229 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Yeah it's bullst.

I think now they make expiry and validity dates the same on freshly issued passports.

Fortunately I realised 3 weeks before going and managed to sort it before we went.

Only realised because my mum mentioned it, and to start with I didn't believe her.

E63eeeeee...

4,425 posts

55 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Sorry for the OP, that's really miserable. Extraordinary that you had an 11-year passport, I thought the maximum carry over was 9 months.

Unfortunately you've got caught in the unravelling of a bit of fine old British exceptionalism, where we decided not to play by the same rules as everyone else and to ignore the ICAO rules that passports shouldn't last more than ten years.

It's also a lesson for governments that no matter how much they hammer a message out, people are going to miss it.

LuS1fer

41,535 posts

251 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Simon Whotsit of the BBC did a good little article which was straight to the point which just said if your passport has hit it's 10 year anniversary since it's issue, it's not valid plus you have to have 3 months left from the last day you return from the EU (US is valid to the last day).

It was loudly publicised and I had to recently check because mine expires next October but is 10 years old in February so will shortly be renewed.

craigjm

18,376 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Quite a few people being caught out by it unfortunately

Sheepshanks

34,409 posts

125 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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LuS1fer said:
Simon Whotsit of the BBC did a good little article which was straight to the point which just said if your passport has hit it's 10 year anniversary since it's issue, it's not valid plus you have to have 3 months left from the last day you return from the EU (US is valid to the last day).
It’s long been an issue for the US that some operators insist on 6 mths. Don’t know if it’s same for Europe but worth checking with your carrier.

As another poster asked, I”m intrigued by the 11 yr passport too.

aterribleusername

319 posts

69 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Bad luck OP.

I've got a passport that has 11 years on it, purely because I renewed it early (wanted to keep the burgundy colour, the blue/black one that replaces this one will get a cover) and as I had more than a year left in the old one it came back with extra time on it. Went to Germany back in May and there were people being caught out then, I knew the rule anyway so will renew this one slightly early too if I need to.

N111BJG

1,134 posts

69 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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It’s working the other way round too. One of my work colleagues had an Irish passport with only had a few weeks left to run & needed to fly to Spain to sort her fathers funeral. The problem wasn’t boarding the flight nor gaining entry to Spain as she was theoretically returning to the EU. But her problem was going to be getting back into England. She needed a dispensation that the Irish Embassy arranged for her. Without it she would have been denied entry to UK.
Her plan B was to fly to the Republic, cross the border to NI & there get ferry back to mainland, no idea if that would have worked

Caddyshack

Original Poster:

11,406 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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aterribleusername said:
Bad luck OP.

I've got a passport that has 11 years on it, purely because I renewed it early (wanted to keep the burgundy colour, the blue/black one that replaces this one will get a cover) and as I had more than a year left in the old one it came back with extra time on it. Went to Germany back in May and there were people being caught out then, I knew the rule anyway so will renew this one slightly early too if I need to.
Yes, same on mine. I renewed early so they tagged on the unused time to the new passport.

There are 250,000 passports left with this issue.