Difficult airports for takeoff in UK
Discussion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra_Airport
Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
Edited by yellowbentines on Friday 7th July 13:44
yellowbentines said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra_Airport
Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
Interesting post.Just looked it up!Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
Edited by yellowbentines on Friday 7th July 13:44
Truckosaurus said:
London City must be up there on the difficulty scale, aren't only a few aircraft types allowed to use it?
I'm not an airline pilot but have a lot of experience with City sat in the back of the bus and it can be fun from time to time. You have the perfect combination of a short, narrow runway (only 1.5km while even smaller regional airports tend to be around the 2km mark), zero runoff (no grass field if you over-run but a bridge one end/water on the other 3 sides), and finally tall buildings near the airport, noise abatement rules, and a low ceiling for departures (to avoid Heathrow traffic).But if your not a nervous flyer the solid push in the back when they go to full power with the brakes on, then release them is always more fun than the gentle, 3/4 power roll down the runway for the return flight on the same aircraft.
Most aircraft these days are Embraer E170/E190s and Bombardier DH4/DH8s. I think the biggest thing that can get in and out is an Airbus A318 - but only in full on "BA001" configuration, so only 32 business class seats, and even then it couldn't take off with full tanks so had to stop off in Ireland en route to refuel.
Whataguy said:
The worst landing I've had as a passenger was Jersey.
Only a short flight from Gatwick, but we smashed into the runway harder than any other landing I've ever had at any airport.
Not sure if it's a short runway or maybe funny winds.
That's normally just gusting winds going straight down the runway. Everything's fine till you flare in the last few meters to drop the last bit of lift and speed and gently settle the plane onto the runway...except instead of that happening a gust of wind comes along and while you still blead off airspeed it gices you extra lift and keeps you up. The gust then passes and you find you're still a few meters above the runway but now with nowhere near enough speed to generate the lift for a gentle drop and, well you just fall out the sky Only a short flight from Gatwick, but we smashed into the runway harder than any other landing I've ever had at any airport.
Not sure if it's a short runway or maybe funny winds.
Many times it's just a short gust so a little tap of power will counteract it, or even none at all and a slightly harder landing than planned. other times it's a big solid gust and you can pile on the power and go around and give it another shot. Sometimes it's that middle ground where you think it will pass, then just as you think it's going to stay and you need to go around it's gone and don't have time to add power. But it's also the reason aircraft undercarrage is tested by dropping it from a good height with a weight representing the aircraft sat on it!
Take offs...
Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
East Midlands on 09 departures might be fun with an over run because its grass for 300m followed by the A453 which basically sits in a 20 foot deep ditch which if you were unlucky enough to clear that its then about a 50 foot drop to the M1 on the other side.
Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
East Midlands on 09 departures might be fun with an over run because its grass for 300m followed by the A453 which basically sits in a 20 foot deep ditch which if you were unlucky enough to clear that its then about a 50 foot drop to the M1 on the other side.
gotoPzero said:
East Midlands on 09 departures might be fun with an over run because its grass for 300m followed by the A453 which basically sits in a 20 foot deep ditch which if you were unlucky enough to clear that its then about a 50 foot drop to the M1 on the other side.
Sad day. Although crash was during landing not takeoff.
Castrol for a knave said:
The cross winds at Leeds / Bradford can be "sporting".
I live not too far from Leeds/ Bradford airport and at the same land height and I can confirm the weather can be wild, especially in the Winter, it's pretty brutal at times.flights can be cancelled quite regularly due to weather especially in the autumn and winter
yellowbentines said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra_Airport
Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
It’s actually regarded as an easy one for the twin otter , three ‘virtual’ runways means there’s six directions in which they can land, so usually into the wind without too many problems, the biggest issue is visibility if its low cloud or fog. Landing on the beach, which is underwater at high tide, sounds tricky to me!
Edited by yellowbentines on Friday 7th July 13:44
Jamescrs said:
Castrol for a knave said:
The cross winds at Leeds / Bradford can be "sporting".
I live not too far from Leeds/ Bradford airport and at the same land height and I can confirm the weather can be wild, especially in the Winter, it's pretty brutal at times.flights can be cancelled quite regularly due to weather especially in the autumn and winter
Sort of a Yorkshire version of Lukla.
gotoPzero said:
Take offs...
Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
If we are counting GA fields, then I've never liked Peterlee, no good EFATO options departing east (industrial estate), and west has powerlines.Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
LimaDelta said:
gotoPzero said:
Take offs...
Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
If we are counting GA fields, then I've never liked Peterlee, no good EFATO options departing east (industrial estate), and west has powerlines.Barton... big f*ck off bridge in the way. But only a GA aerodrome not a full blown airport and ops usually in a westerly direction avoiding the bridge.
Birmingham used to be an interesting ride before they extended the runway - I've been on a few KLM 737s landing there which came down with a thump followed by engines being put on full reverse and a couple of hundred passengers bracing against the seat in front.
Take off was always fun though, one of those they had to hold it on the brakes then nail it to take off in time. Probably my favourite part of flying those sorts of take offs.
Take off was always fun though, one of those they had to hold it on the brakes then nail it to take off in time. Probably my favourite part of flying those sorts of take offs.
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