When did Brighton turn into a hole?
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Two visits to Brighton in the past couple of weeks.
Dinner in the lanes area, lots of empty looking restaurants and run down pubs. When leaving the restaurant to go back to the car the place had a general dirty feel and smell, lots of rubbish everywhere and many homeless sprawled on the pavement.
Yesterday we went to the Marina to meet friends. Walking around most restaurants shut down apart from Weatherspoons & Nando's, again very dirty and tired looking place even the boats looked sorry for themselves, nothing new or nice apart from a couple of jet skis. A stark contrast to any large marina I have been to in Europe where people look after their boats and a nice atmosphere with up market bars and resturants. Speaking to an estate agent friend who works in Brighton flats in the Marina are very hard to sell even In a good market, not hard to see why.
Exiting the City you will see lots of semi permanent caravans parked up by the race course with the accompanying 20ft rubbish pile & burnt out cars.
I used to frequent Brighton most weekends around 10 years ago when it felt affluent and buzzy, a shame to see it in the state it is now.
Dinner in the lanes area, lots of empty looking restaurants and run down pubs. When leaving the restaurant to go back to the car the place had a general dirty feel and smell, lots of rubbish everywhere and many homeless sprawled on the pavement.
Yesterday we went to the Marina to meet friends. Walking around most restaurants shut down apart from Weatherspoons & Nando's, again very dirty and tired looking place even the boats looked sorry for themselves, nothing new or nice apart from a couple of jet skis. A stark contrast to any large marina I have been to in Europe where people look after their boats and a nice atmosphere with up market bars and resturants. Speaking to an estate agent friend who works in Brighton flats in the Marina are very hard to sell even In a good market, not hard to see why.
Exiting the City you will see lots of semi permanent caravans parked up by the race course with the accompanying 20ft rubbish pile & burnt out cars.
I used to frequent Brighton most weekends around 10 years ago when it felt affluent and buzzy, a shame to see it in the state it is now.
We lived in and around Brighton for around 10 years, moved away 5 years ago.
It used to feel like a very friendly, chilled place but it definitely changed in that time period and had taken on a much more city-like vibe. Seemed be alot more poverty, and generally scummy looking people around!.
It used to feel like a very friendly, chilled place but it definitely changed in that time period and had taken on a much more city-like vibe. Seemed be alot more poverty, and generally scummy looking people around!.
KAgantua said:
It's different in the UK.
Other countries -
Coastal areas are prime real estate with clientele, residents and maintenance to match. Inland areas are the bad areas.
UK-
Coastal areas are the dumping grounds and 'cheap' real estate, inland areas are expensive
Have you seen the house prices in Brighton?Other countries -
Coastal areas are prime real estate with clientele, residents and maintenance to match. Inland areas are the bad areas.
UK-
Coastal areas are the dumping grounds and 'cheap' real estate, inland areas are expensive
My wife has family there and it came across incredibly pretentious last time we visited 10 years ago.
Crap beach, overpriced everything, somewhere we have no intention of visiting again.
I didn't think it was a hole so it may have gone downhill since then.
Great place. All the above merely describes how it has always been. I lived there for near on 13 years, it taught me that the last place you want to be is all the sthole main drags sucking up the tourist dollar. If you know where to go, it's a fantastic place, always was, always will be but you're going to have to step over the squalor to get there, that's the charm of the place - it looks like a city that's helping the Police with their enquiries.
Everything else is just out of towners moaning that it isn't sanitised to their expectations. Tunbridge Wells for you lot.
Everything else is just out of towners moaning that it isn't sanitised to their expectations. Tunbridge Wells for you lot.
cliffords said:
It's great if you value decay . Like most of the South coast towns now .
Not my experience at all. I am a couple of miles inland and a few miles West admittedly but I do venture to Brighton and Hove regularly. It hasn't changed that much over the past 30 years. Some really nice bits and some not so nice bits. Like every city I know.Don't get me wrong, I've had some great nights out there but as I've always said it's the people not the location.
So I'd argue it's never been that great, aside from the seafront a lot of it has always been a bit dingy. During the day plenty of this crappy little shops that just sell nothing worthwhile, during the night loads of clubs offering the same thing. I'm not a beach holiday kind of person but the pebble beach sucks. Piers are great until you're about 8 and as per, everything is overpriced and feels a bit like a tourist trap.
It's going back over 10 years now but I was seeing a girl in Yorkshire at the time and we planned to do a long weekend getaway somewhere like Brighton and it ended up being about £200 more to do 2 weeks in Orlando at Universal/Disney.
It's a shame, because I have fond memories of going to the seaside as a kid but as an adult, can definitely leave it, especially when it's rammed.
So I'd argue it's never been that great, aside from the seafront a lot of it has always been a bit dingy. During the day plenty of this crappy little shops that just sell nothing worthwhile, during the night loads of clubs offering the same thing. I'm not a beach holiday kind of person but the pebble beach sucks. Piers are great until you're about 8 and as per, everything is overpriced and feels a bit like a tourist trap.
It's going back over 10 years now but I was seeing a girl in Yorkshire at the time and we planned to do a long weekend getaway somewhere like Brighton and it ended up being about £200 more to do 2 weeks in Orlando at Universal/Disney.
It's a shame, because I have fond memories of going to the seaside as a kid but as an adult, can definitely leave it, especially when it's rammed.
Aunty Pasty said:
I'm pretty sure that few years ago, Brighton was seen as a trendy up-and-coming place to hang about. People used to commute all the way to London from Brighton.
Was it all spin or has things just crashed and burned recently?
Usual pattern - lots of people moved to the area to be part of something but ultimately destroyed what it was they moved there for so moved away.Was it all spin or has things just crashed and burned recently?
Edited by Aunty Pasty on Monday 12th June 14:38
I recently bought a holiday house / AirBnB in Brighton. I love it!
Neighbours are way nicer than in SW London.
All recycling and rubbish gets cleared every day from skips at the end of the road.
Sure, it's shabby in parts and can be crowded and lively.
But there's some great architecture, nice restaurants on Preston Street as well as the Lanes / North Laine.
Generally people are there having a fun time, and it's not threatening at all.
I do stand out though, as I've got no tattoos / piercings and don't have a same sex partner...
Neighbours are way nicer than in SW London.
All recycling and rubbish gets cleared every day from skips at the end of the road.
Sure, it's shabby in parts and can be crowded and lively.
But there's some great architecture, nice restaurants on Preston Street as well as the Lanes / North Laine.
Generally people are there having a fun time, and it's not threatening at all.
I do stand out though, as I've got no tattoos / piercings and don't have a same sex partner...
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