French & Spanish Toll Roads

French & Spanish Toll Roads

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pete_esp

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258 posts

101 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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I've driven in France quite a lot but this year will be driving in Spain for the first time, can I use the same tag for the toll roads in both countries?

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Check with your tag provider but a lot of them cover France/Spain/Portugal/Italy with the same tag. Not all accounts/packages will automatically cover them all through so you'd need to check yours.

rdjohn

6,332 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Rick101

6,986 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Perfect timing!

Will have a look at that thanks. Used Emovis before but too expensive.
Bip and Driver was suggested but the website and application is a nightmare. Not sure if UK residents are accepted.

Will give Ulys a try.

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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I went with Mango (https://www.mango-mobilitesbyaprr.com/en/avantage-badge-telepeage)...annoyingly the day after their New Year sale with free this, that, and the other ended rolleyes

Still proved its worth driving down to the Alpes for Feb. half term, reasonably easy to navigate the sign-up process and has been simple to swap car reg. through the mobile app. to move the tag between cars. Only advice is to get one in advance of your trip rather than last minute as a few people had issues getting the DD set up for payments - fine if you're just sat at home with weeks before your trip, less so people who set off as soon as it arrived in the post. I/most people didn't have any issues though.

Edited by //j17 on Friday 22 April 12:24

omniflow

2,781 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Rick101 said:
Perfect timing!

Will have a look at that thanks. Used Emovis before but too expensive.
Bip and Driver was suggested but the website and application is a nightmare. Not sure if UK residents are accepted.

Will give Ulys a try.
Yup - I saw that same recommendation and tried to sign up to Bip and Drive - like you say - a total nightmare and no response from support either.

I've just signed up to the Vinci one above - it looks like the same tag will cover Italy, France, Spain and Portugal - which is pretty much perfect. No tolls in Germany. Austria and Switzerland both covered by Vignettes. I don't think Netherlands or Belgium has tolls either - so one tag covers pretty much all of Western Europe.


mondayo

1,828 posts

269 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Forgive the stupid question but if I get the toll pass, I'm saving time, as I don't have to wait/queue to pay at the toll booths but the actual toll cost is the same?
And I just pay the daily fee the company charges?

Historically, I've just paid in cash. Hence my questions.

Ta

omniflow

2,781 posts

157 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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mondayo said:
Forgive the stupid question but if I get the toll pass, I'm saving time, as I don't have to wait/queue to pay at the toll booths but the actual toll cost is the same?
And I just pay the daily fee the company charges?

Historically, I've just paid in cash. Hence my questions.

Ta
There is some talk of discounts on Tolls, but I very much get the impression it's much more about the convenience than any cost saving.

That's certainly why I signed up. There have been a couple of recent instances of very long queues at the toll booth - 10 minutes plus to get through. It's worth paying to avoid that. However, the bigger issue for me is avoiding the whole rigmarole of the toll booth - is it take a ticket, fixed fee, or pay based on re-inserting your ticket. Can I use contactless - or is the operator of this piece of road still in the dark ages. Will my bank think my card is being used fraudulently and block the payment. Can my wife reach the toll booth from her seat, or does she need to open the door - so should I try and pull up as close to the machines as I can, or as far away as possible.

Having said all of the above, I've only just ordered my pass, but hopefully it will live up to my expectations

rdjohn

6,332 posts

201 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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On a recent journey home from southern Spain to northern France the cost was €72+ and no discount.

It is purely for convenience.

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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mondayo said:
Forgive the stupid question but if I get the toll pass, I'm saving time, as I don't have to wait/queue to pay at the toll booths but the actual toll cost is the same?
And I just pay the daily fee the company charges?

Historically, I've just paid in cash. Hence my questions.

Ta
It's just convienience and actually costs you a little more than paying cash. For my Mango tag there's a €1.70 monthly fee - but it's only charged for months you actually use the tag (and currently they have a deal where even that's waves for the first 10 months, as is the €11 set-up fee).

I do a bit of driving in France, solo in a low-slung, right hand drive car so €1,70 to avoid having to seat belt off/get out car/walk around car/get ticket or pay/walk back around/get back in/put seatbelt back on at every toll point is money €1.70 well spent.

NathR

19 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Just found this thread which is of relevance to me as I'm setting off on a three week Euro trip on May 18th. I'll be travelling through Spain, France, Monaco, Italy, Switzerland, Germany and Belgium so am looking into tolls/vignettes.

The idea of a tag appeals to save the hassle of using a card. I've looked into the Ulys and Mango options mentioned above, they seem to fit the bill nicely but a couple of points concern me... I haven't got anymore plans to do another Euro trip so this may be a one off, is there a penalty for not using it again (Bip&Go mentions a €10/year charge when not used)? Also, I've found some bad reviews online when it comes to using a UK bank account, can anyone shed any light on this side of things? Lastly, I may have left it too late to receive it in time! I'm thinking of ordering a Swiss vignette in advance also.

Any advice on the above greatly appreciated. smile

omniflow

2,781 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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I ordered a Ulys tag on Thursday of last week and received an email yesterday saying it had been dispatched - so with 3 weeks I think you should be fine.

NathR

19 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Did you have any issues setting up with a UK bank account?

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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@NathR - Certainly for Mango, unless I've missed something in the small print the only charge is the 'each month used' one. I've only had mine since Jan and so far only had charges have been for Feb. when I was driving in France.

And some people have had issues getting the Direct Debit set up, but that's generally been an issue with the individual's UK bank causing the issue. The vast majority don't have any issues though and they do a £1 transation as part of the set-up so you should know quite quickly if you need to talk to your bank to get it all working or not.

omniflow

2,781 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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NathR said:
Did you have any issues setting up with a UK bank account?
You have to put in an "IBAN" - but that's not hard to figure out - there are plenty of sites that will generate one from your sort code and account number

Shnozz

27,884 posts

277 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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I have a Bip&Drive.

Worked fine but then ran into an issue not that long ago where my bank was deducted a chunk for a trip across Southern France that clearly wasn't me. I had to argue with them for some time it wasn't me - the serial number for the tag was correct so no idea how it was somehow wrong or forged. Took about 6 months for them to reimburse me and then had to pay postage for a replacement unit to be sent as a precaution.

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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omniflow said:
NathR said:
Did you have any issues setting up with a UK bank account?
You have to put in an "IBAN" - but that's not hard to figure out - there are plenty of sites that will generate one from your sort code and account number
You may well be able to get it from your banks phone app. too. Certainly you can from the NatWest one and most of them have the same features/functionality.

deanobeano

435 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Ulys for me. I dropped Emovis, as their charges were too high (3% forex charge and ongoing charges).

If you have problems using a UK bank account, set up a free Revolut account and use that - it will give you a great Euro exchange rate. The Revolut app shows you your full IBAN number.

My Ulys tag took about a week to arrive. No fee when not using it, 2 euro a month when you do. They had a 9 months free offer on the website that I used to sign up through.

You can add Portugal and Spain to the tag, via your online account, again, I think its 2 Euro per month when you use it in these countries.

NathR

19 posts

188 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Thanks all for the input.

Ordered a Ulys last night, got my IBAN no problem from my bank account online (Lloyds), no transactions as yet though. The only thing I noticed in the small print is a €10 per year charge for non use, which is no biggy. If I decide I won't use it again then I guess I can cancel/return it easily enough.

Rick101

6,986 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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Anybody use the Ulys and bank with Nationwide?

Google translate seems to suggest the £1 check debit hasn't worked. I've re-entered my nationwide IBAN number in the hope it'll try again.

Only other current account I have is a Revolut.

Edited by Rick101 on Wednesday 4th May 12:10