Boeing 737 MAX 9

[DaveGrohl]

UK registered planes are MAX 8 so currently not affected, apparently.

Might this change? We’re scheduled to fly on one next Sat.

[stevemcs]

I very much doubt it, they don’t have the door, well Ryanair do but Tui don’t

[djc206]

If there was any doubt the CAA would have grounded them. Unless you’ve plumped for exit row you’ve not got much to worry about anyway….

[DaveGrohl]

stevemcs said:

I very much doubt it, they don’t have the door, well Ryanair do but Tui don’t

We’re flying with Tui. Reported this morning that the CAA have written to airlines. Seemingly there are no registered MAX 9s in the UK, but where will our MAX 8 be registered?

It wasn’t a door that blew out anyway, it was the dummy door panel.

[havoc]

There's already a thread up in Boats, Trains and Planes about the entire MAX series.

YMMV, but I'd not want to be boarding one...it seems pretty clear that Boeing have been lobbying hard (FAA and Senate) to be allowed to get those planes moving again, and I'm not convinced they haven't cut corners in the name of profit.

[Chucklehead]

DaveGrohl said:

UK registered planes are MAX 8 so currently not affected, apparently.

Plenty of non-UK registered planes flying out of the UK every day. Icelandair have a few and they've all been out of Glasgow / Manchester / London in very recent week. TCC-ICA through E (I think).

[djc206]

Chucklehead said:

Plenty of non-UK registered planes flying out of the UK every day. Icelandair have a few and they've all been out of Glasgow / Manchester / London in very recent week. TCC-ICA through E (I think).

TF-ICA through to D.

[Phooey]

Not ideal, but can't you just wear some extra layers and keep your seatbelt on??

[DaveGrohl]

Phooey said:

Not ideal, but can't you just wear some extra layers and keep your seatbelt on??

Seats allocated at airport so we’ll get there early and avoid the dodgy rows.

[DaveGrohl]

havoc said:

There's already a thread up in Boats, Trains and Planes about the entire MAX series.

YMMV, but I'd not want to be boarding one...it seems pretty clear that Boeing have been lobbying hard (FAA and Senate) to be allowed to get those planes moving again, and I'm not convinced they haven't cut corners in the name of profit.

Thanks, I’ve seen it now. Way too many of them in service now to be able to avoid them unfortunately.

[craig1912]

DaveGrohl said:

Thanks, I’ve seen it now. Way too many of them in service now to be able to avoid them unfortunately.

We try to fly EasyJet or BA neither of which have them. Maybe looking at Iceland next year and will avoid Icelandair as they do have them.

[omniflow]

craig1912 said:

DaveGrohl said:

Thanks, I’ve seen it now. Way too many of them in service now to be able to avoid them unfortunately.

We try to fly EasyJet or BA neither of which have them. Maybe looking at Iceland next year and will avoid Icelandair as they do have them.

Yup - exactly. I'm going through this dilemma now, looking to book a last minute holiday to the Canaries. Personally, I don't trust the Max 8 or Max 9 so I have crossed Tui off my list completely (although I think they do let you choose BA flights on their package holidays, but by the time you do this someone else will have the same hotel for less money). Jet2 have a bunch of 737s on their fleet, but they are 737-800s and from my research these pre-date the problems.

So, they can be avoided, you just need to pick and choose the tour operator / airline.

[Kenty]

we cancelled a Canadian holiday a few years ago as it was a max 8.
We have made the decision not to fly a Max, looks like we were justified.
Also, those on the Alaskan plane were extremely lucky that it happened around 13000 feet,
if was at 35000ft a considerable number would have died and it would
have been touch and go to have a safe landing.

[s1962a]

I'm the same. I have regularly flown on Ryanair's 737 Max 8, but I won't be flying it again till Boeing really do more to take these issues more seriously.

[daqinggregg]

s1962a said:

I'm the same. I have regularly flown on Ryanair's 737 Max 8, but I won't be flying it again till Boeing really do more to take these issues more seriously.

FFS, Don't leave you're house tomorrow.

[craig1912]

daqinggregg said:

FFS, Don't leave you're house tomorrow.

It’s your, but why do you have an issue in him not wanting to fly on a Max? I am of a similar opinion that, unless I absolutely have to, I’ll choose an airline that doesn’t have them in their fleet.

[s1962a]

daqinggregg said:

s1962a said:

I'm the same. I have regularly flown on Ryanair's 737 Max 8, but I won't be flying it again till Boeing really do more to take these issues more seriously.

FFS, Don't leave you're house tomorrow.

How regularly do you fly short haul? Not a willy waving contest but I flew on the 737 Max on Ryanair about a month after they got one in mid 2021 from what I remember. I did all my due diligence on Boeing and MCAS and gave them the benefit of the doubt. They even announced that if passengers weren't happy with flying on the max we could reschedule - remember that 2 planes had nosedived into the ground in 2018/2019 on the same plane type. Since then i've flown on it a few times, but most short haul in Europe is Airbus narrowbody so it's easy enough to avoid on most routes. I don't think the Max 8's are unsafe, but Boeing are doing a piss poor job with quality control, lobbying, and their pursuit of greed at the expense of their passengers. I won't be one of them for the 737 Max in any of it's variants.

When are you flying it next?

[s1962a]

u-boat said:

Irrelevant stuff

Do you have a view on Boeing and it's current quality control issues?

[eliot]

Must admit, after the MCAS debacle, I felt that the plane must be one of the safest planes flying now having been the extensively scrutinised following the accidents.
For the dummy/plug door to fall off because they forgot to fit the bolts is pretty shocking.

[Kenty]

u-boat said:

Kenty said:

we cancelled a Canadian holiday a few years ago as it was a max 8.
We have made the decision not to fly a Max, looks like we were justified.
Also, those on the Alaskan plane were extremely lucky that it happened around 13000 feet,
if was at 35000ft a considerable number would have died and it would
have been touch and go to have a safe landing.

What would you do if one of your flights was changed onto a max?

How do you know a considerable number would have died if it was at 35,000 and that a safe landing would have been touch and go.

Sounds like you’ve made a decision and this is confirmation bias.

The consequences were quoted from an expert in the FAA and on the BBC, it’s fairly obvious really, explosive decompression from 35000 ft, there are consequences.

If the aircraft was changed to a Max 8 I wouldn’t go, my life is worth more to me than a couple of hundred quid.