I've suddenly developed a hatred for rat poison

I've suddenly developed a hatred for rat poison

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bobr

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1,031 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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To cut a long story short, it looks like my tom has eaten a rat, and has ingested some poison. Christ the difference is dramatic, he has gone from being chunky, alert and playful, to a dopey, skinny runt. I really don't feel I can put down in to words the hatred I feel towards people who use rat poison in an area where there is known to be cats. Anyone know the best way to help him get through, he is better then he was yesterday but only slightly.

I can't keep him cooped up, as he will bloody hate me, so what are the best things to ffed him. He seems to like lamb milk substitute (the powdered stuff) and salmon, as well as complete food. He's had a bit of all of these today, but is there anything else I should feed him.

I know the lamb milk may not be brilliant for him, but he really likes it, so I'm happy for him to have it.

Sorry for the long windedness of this post, but be thankful I haven't vented my seething anger about the fker who has laid the poison (I have suspicions)smile

All help appreciated.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Rat poison is very usefull stuff, but as you have seen secondary poisoning can be an issue. My Jacj Russell (RIP) ate some, he liked it actuallyhehe, anyway. He was taken off to the vet and fortunately we knew what product he had eaten, so it was fairly easy to treat him. Basicly he had a dose of vitamin K.

Get yer cat to the vet, asap


bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Your post doesn't make it clear but has he been treated at the vets?
If not he needs tx asap he will prob need vit k treatment. The longer you leave it the more risk he is of complications, though hopefully eating the poison via a rat is better than eating it directly.

Strong smelling foods are good, pilchards in tomato sauce, warmed up tuna, luxury tinned foods, don't offer too many foods at the same time.
If your vet has been treating him ask them what palatable foods they have you could try, little and often feeding is better than too big a meal. He does need to be kept indoors though to recuperate, he is vulnerable right now, he may even need supportive intravenous fluid therapy at the vets.

Edited by bexVN on Tuesday 3rd May 22:01

bobr

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1,031 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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No not been to the vets yet, only really noticed how bad it was, and wrked out what it is that has caused it. Will get him there tomorrow.

He loves smoked salmon, so sounds like I'm buying it in bulk tomorrow smile

Backseatdriver

170 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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I would ring the emergency vet NOW to get some urgent advise!!!

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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http://drbarchas.com/rodenticide

The above should give you a clear indicator of what you may be dealing with, I'm worried that tom am is leaving it too long. You should ring emergency vets for advice.

sinizter

3,348 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Rat poison (older types at least, not sure if there are newer compounds) is an anti-coagulant - so Vitamin K to counteract it.

Hope your cat recovers.

bobr

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1,031 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Ok vet called. Many thanks smile

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Hope everything is ok for your four legged friend.

jj333

442 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Depending on the amount I imagine this could be be pretty serious for a cat, two medium sized dogs near me have died from suspected rat poison in the last month frown

Jasandjules

70,507 posts

236 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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bobr said:
Ok vet called. Many thanks smile
Good stuff. What has s/he suggested?

I wish your moggie all the best.

Pipster1969

695 posts

175 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Sounds like you've never had rats in your garden? We had around ten and they were everywhere, dug out the contents of the composter and spread it over the garden, climbed the fences and bird table and ran all over the garden. As I understand it they constantly leak urine which you can catch Weils disease from so pretty much the only thing you can do is poison them. If your garden gets overrun you'll understand, before anyone suggests an air rifle or Jack Russel, neither are practical. We have local cats who used to catch a couple but seeing as they tend to go back to their lairs to die it's pretty unlikely they'd eat an infected one, trust me, my wife loves cats and checked with the rat man first.

BOR

4,841 posts

262 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Hope your cat recovers ok. I think any case of poisoning needs to be taken seriously. Time is of the esessence, due to the short time window available for stomach pumping, before the toxin enters the body.

About a month ago, our Whippet ingested some sort of poison - Metaldhyd - found in slug pellets (amongst other products).
The symptoms were listlessness followed by epileptic fitting. She was sedated by a local vet, then rushed to an animal clinic at the university. Intensive care and a "prepare for the worst" conversation with the doctor. The problem with that toxin, iirc, is that it's a nerve agent, but, they managed to pump out what they could, and stabilise and treat her over the next 48hrs.

She survived what is normally fatal, and appears to have no long term damage.

I did read a suggestion to get the animal to each charcoal(the carbon adsorbs the toxin), but I don't know how you would use that. Any ideas about charcoal as an emergency aid, Bexs?

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Yes we use it a lot in cases of ingested poisons (even food related poisons eg grapes/ chocolate), it is a vital first aid agent, it's efficacy is improved with speed but still worth considering even several hours after ingestion has occurred. ALways in stock. Bloody messy stuff though! smile (We get it in liquid form and usually syringe it directly into the mouth or sometimes mix it with a little food.)

ali_kat

32,033 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Jasandjules said:
bobr said:
Ok vet called. Many thanks smile
Good stuff. What has s/he suggested?

I wish your moggie all the best.
Ditto, please do keep us updated frown

bobr

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1,031 posts

171 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Vet came out, gave him some injections and recommended strong smelling foods (thanks Bex). He loons a lot more alert today smile

As for not having rats, of course I do, but I prefer a combination of air pistol, terriers and the ill cat to deal with them.

Thanks for all your help biggrin

ali_kat

32,033 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Keeping my fingers crossed but all sounds good so far biggrin

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Most farm cats get a poisoned mouse once in a while. They seem to survive. Bosses cat had eaten a few and nearly made 19 yrs

bobr

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1,031 posts

171 months

Friday 6th May 2011
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Sadly elbow died in the night, despite mine and the vets best efforts. He now has his own corner of the orchard and is soon to be replaced with a rescue. Thanks for all your help