Is there an 'alpha' domestic cat breed?

Is there an 'alpha' domestic cat breed?

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GilbertGrape

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1,226 posts

197 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Based on size, I'd imagine the Bengal could be up there, along with the Maine Coon and Norwegian forest cat. The British shorthair might also be in the running. Are these breeds especially 'tough' though?

Which cat breed/s would most likely be the Lions and Tigers of the domestics?


Wattsie

1,161 posts

208 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I think I have some form of a Bengal Bombay, but with a white patch under it's chin... It seems fat when lounging, but when it saunters around outside seems pretty hench. It chased off a fox once too.

I assume this makes it a badass cat. smile

EFA - It's a Bombay cat, not a Bengal. Still badass though.

Sheets Tabuer

19,648 posts

222 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Can't speak for the others but I had some Norwegian Forrest cats until I moved next to a bypass, they currently live with the MiL and they're daft as brushes, they run from every cat and wood pigeon in the area.

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Maine Coons are pretty gentle. But big. I think the Guiness biggest cat in the world is a Maine Coon.

Do you want a feral cat though? There are lots of fast moving sharp bits on a cat.

J-Tuner

2,855 posts

250 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I've got a ginger Tomcat - domestic shorthair. It's got stripes on the front half of him and spots on the rear. He's a big old unit and weighs a fair bit. He's never come back with any injuries and he's got a sharp hunters instinct. I think might is right in the garden but without a bit of aggression it's worthless smile

Doofus

28,523 posts

180 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Can we assume, op, that you're a chav who's scared of dogs? smile


Jasandjules

70,506 posts

236 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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GilbertGrape said:
Which cat breed/s would most likely be the Lions and Tigers of the domestics?
I think Bengals. But something in my mind says there are other cats which I think are even closer to wild cats.

Maine Coons are IME not that bad - ours used to attack dogs, and once a skunk.......


GT03ROB

13,571 posts

228 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Well I ave a Bengal/ragdoll cross. No alpha cat there...the ragdoll genes won!

GnuBee

1,277 posts

222 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I've got a Maine Coon - he's quite big, scared of other cats half his size and yet the other day he went for a fox at full tilt. He was been harvesting the local wildlife with a tally of 3 rabbits this week already - and I don't mean tiny, baby rabbits - I mean proper rabbits.




bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I'd actually say small female tortoiseshells! You don't often want to mess with these. I don't mean all tortis but when ou get a feisty one, you'll know about it, they won't let anything stand in their way smile

IainT

10,040 posts

245 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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We've been owned by Bengals for the last 8 years or so and they're farily though cats but it varies depending on the personality more than breed.

Of our current three the oldest (who has now decided he's a kitten again to keep up with the youngest 2) is a total softy weiging in at 5.5kg. He's still the dominant cat though.

Pip, now a year old, is pretty feisty and loves nothing more than chasing and pouncing and his back-flips are impressive. He's 6kg.

Lily, also 1 year old, is a total tart and 5kg.

They all take it in turns ot chase each other around and play fighting can be pretty rough at times with piles of fluff being left behind.

Max, who was poisoned, was nearly 7kg and no fat was also a total softy with people but other cats tended to get a kicking. All except the little giniger cat fromover the road who might just have weighed 3kg. Quite a few times they faced off to each other with one or both chosing to back down.

Then again the ginger moggy used to chase grown foxes around and faced off to a staffie a few times so...

Marf

22,907 posts

248 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Do second and third generation savannah cat hybrids count as domestics? They can get pretty damned big. Not sure if they trump Maine Coones though.

Broomsticklady

1,095 posts

212 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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We currently have 3 NFCs, and have had 2 others previously, and also currently have a Maine Coon. Both breeders we have used also had Benglas. In terms of size, the MC and NFCs win hands down.

In terms of 'daftness' with humans the NFCs win hands down - one of mine is convinced I gave birth to him - he hangs round my neck, sits on my chest gazing devotedly into my eyes and is what we call in Scotland a 'wee sook'. With wildlife however non of them are softies - Hagar - now sadly departed - used to catch rabbits and had a rather disgusting habit of sampling different bits and leaving us with the remains. One day an earless rabbit (not too bad), next day brainless, next day rear left quarter - you get the picture. The smallest of our Weegies is a tortie lady who I've seen standing up to a fox on our deck late at nights.

Bruno - the Maine Coon - is affectionate when he wants to be with who he wants to be - he loves men and snuggles up to armpits, but again is an excellent hunter - a hare is his 'best' prize.

Not to be forgotten tho and in similar type to NFC and MCs is the Siberian - I think there is a siberian owner on here who hopefully will contribute.

Edited by Broomsticklady on Friday 15th April 15:03

m0ssy

920 posts

199 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Marf said:
Do second and third generation savannah cat hybrids count as domestics? They can get pretty damned big. Not sure if they trump Maine Coones though.
they are the tough ones from what I know.

I have only ever owned BSH. Whilst the breed are generally great hunters, and ex-working cats I certainly wouldn't rely on one of them to guard my house! although I think one of those Savannah/ Servals certainly could.

Hardest cat I ever knew was my Nan's old black and white tom cat. A rather large unit that used to drag rats in to hers and eat them. Owned the whole area for years and years until he passed at around 18 so a good innings.

As a young lad I used to walk my Nan's neighbours Alsation for fun. Big dog. Once when bringing her back from a walk I noticed 'Tuppence' (my nan's big tom) was in the way on the path. I figured he would move but no, just sat there. The dog got a bit too close and with one swish of his paw the poor dogs nose was bleeding and she wanted no further part from the cat.

Quite embarrasing for the owner too if I recall, explaining the cut in her nose and nervous temperament had come from my Nan's cat.

So never under-estimate the moggie. Some of them a tough as old boots.

Jasandjules

70,506 posts

236 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Marf said:
Do second and third generation savannah cat hybrids count as domestics? They can get pretty damned big. Not sure if they trump Maine Coones though.
That's the one I was trying to remember when I said other cats closer bred to wild ones!!!

Size doesn't always matter so much in a fight.....

bobr

1,031 posts

171 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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It depends more on personality really. My slightly built DSH got badly damaged by a feral a few months ago, has since gained masses of muscle, and can catch fully grown rabbits, yet is still as lovable as ever. His kitten is going the same way biggrin

ali_kat

32,033 posts

228 months

Saturday 16th April 2011
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bexVN said:
I'd actually say small female tortoiseshells! You don't often want to mess with these. I don't mean all tortis but when ou get a feisty one, you'll know about it, they won't let anything stand in their way smile
Sounds like my Bast laugh for a small Bengal cross, she happily brings full size rabbits home that are bigger than she is! smile

And with 3 Toms in the house at present, there is no doubt who is Boss!