Puppy Crate Help Please?

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GordonL

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265 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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Hi there. We've just got a beautiful Golden Retriever puppy. He'll be 10 weeks on Saturday and we've had him since Monday. So far everything appears to have been going fine, he settled into his crate immediately and has been dry all night since Monday. However for the last 2 nights he's begun whining and barking occasionally during the night. The only thing that stops him is to go into the room with him and sit with him for a couple of minutes.
I wait until he's quiet before going in, I think he hears me in the hallway. He stops whining until I appear and he usually drops off to sleep within a couple of minutes.
Since this appears to be a new thing I don't want to encourage him, but he's still a baby and I don't want to leave him unnecessarily if he's genuinely scared or unhappy.

Aside from this he's been an absolute angel and we love him to bits.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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easier to say than do but I'd just leave him

Catz

4,812 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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As said you'll need to ignore him or he'll see whining as a way of gaining your attention.

I'm saying that however ... we got a crate for our pup but she just went frantic when locked in it which wasn't pleasant to watch. In the end we just left the cage door open so she'd sleep in it but was able to wander about when she felt like it. Total waste of time having a cage for us really lol.
We were very lucky as she was house trained by 10 weeks though.

riosyd

614 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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We put a large cuddly toy in with our puppy and left the radio on.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

188 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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All relevant points above.

You could put the crate at the end of your bed so he knows you are there - but before you know it he'll be in the bed with you.

Wonder where we went wrong ? But it was only when he was too tall for the (giant breed) cage and he could see his elder sibling already enjoyed the privilege. Thank heavens for king size beds - also saves on overnight heating.

scirocco265

421 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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Have you tried putting a shirt/jumper that smells of you in with him, a ticking alarm clock (mimics the mother's heartbeat) and/or a hot water bottle fot 'the warmth of the pack'?

Aside from that, if the rule is that pupster sleeps in a seperate room then it'll just have to lump. As hard as it is, you going in when he cries just encourages the crying.

Jasandjules

70,504 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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If you want to keep him in the crate, then you have to leave him alone I am afraid.


Wildsea

1,855 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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All good ideas.

I just left my puppy, he had 2 massive soft toys in there, but make sure he is not a chewer first, the stuffing in soft toys can be very dangerous to dogs if swallowed.

GordonL

Original Poster:

265 posts

208 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Thanks all. I spent a lot of time yesterday trying to work out if I'd changed anything between the first 3 nights when he was quiet all night and the latter 2 when he didn't. The only things I could think of were 1, that he'd had his first lot of vaccines from the vet on Thursday morning and 2, the weather was much clearer and there was a big full moon shining into his bed.

Couldn't do much about the first one but I curtained off his bed with a blanket last night. Result? He slept quietly all night again. Could just be coincidence of course.

Jasandjules

70,504 posts

236 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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GordonL said:
Couldn't do much about the first one but I curtained off his bed with a blanket last night. Result? He slept quietly all night again. Could just be coincidence of course.
No, that sounds like something that would upset a puppy. Hopefully that's the answer.


scirocco265

421 posts

183 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Jasandjules said:
No, that sounds like something that would upset a puppy. Hopefully that's the answer.
We put a blanket over the top of the crate that goes down the back and both sides after reading that it creates a "den" environment for the dog. After sticking my head in their once to put his toys in I can testify that it looked liked the cosiest place I've ever seen.

It's a dog's life.

Powderpuff

355 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Both our Goldens were crate trained as pups...we found that covering the crate as you've done helped as did playing a radio quietly in the background overnight....Classic FM can be your friend smile

Our eldest GR seemed to find his bed in the crate a bit warm so we put a large ceramin floor tile in there with him as well, if he wanted to lay on something cooler he could.

Do you leave the crate door open during the day when you're around so he can go in and out at will, that way he can get used to it being his quiet place and doesn't see it as somewhere 'he's put' before he's 'left alone'

Any pics of him?

GordonL

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265 posts

208 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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I did have a blanket over three sides of the crate, but had left the front open, it seemed best, but I've now taken to dropping the blanket right over all four sides. Definitely seems to have helped.
Yes we left the crate door open and he toddles in and out as he pleases during the day, although he's now discovered the sofa so thats his preferred haunt during most of the day.
Can't manage photos very well with a phone, just moved here and BT haven't connected me yet. He did really well again last night, whined and barked to get outside for the toilet and straight back into his crate and to sleep.

VR6time

1,656 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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We are also in the misdt of this with a 12 week old Beagle, He is happy enough to stay in there but if he thinks there is no one about he will holler for about 10 mins and then settle back down.

Sounds like you have it all under control, and we are sticking with the crate training because i believe it is a good way of giving him a part of the house that is his and his alone.

I just wish he would go in it of his own accord during the day.

Jasandjules

70,504 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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GordonL said:
Yes we left the crate door open and he toddles in and out as he pleases during the day, although he's now discovered the sofa so thats his preferred haunt during most of the day.
He did really well again last night, whined and barked to get outside for the toilet and straight back into his crate and to sleep.
Good, he's not upset at the crate (as they shouldn't be if used correctly, my understanding is that it makes them feel safe and secure) so as long as it's not used as a punishment area he'll carry on with that.



nick_j007

1,598 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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As a few have correctly pointed out already, don't return once you've closed the crate and gone to bed. I favour covering crates up by the way. When a pup falls asleep in the day I place them in the crate, settle them down a bit then close door cover up and walk away.
I also stop access to water after about 8 to reduce the need to wee and it encourages a quiet night.

Good luck.
Nick.