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Slashmb

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409 posts

264 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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I've noticed there seems to be quite a few cat lovers on PH and I was wondering if any of you could please help me out with my cat.

We moved house just before christmas and since then Harley has been peeing everywhere. He never used to do it in the old house but here its like it is his mission to cover the whole house in pee. Its not in the same place, it really is just about every room. He has just peed on a coat that was waiting to go in the washing machine too.

We have a flap fitted as we did in the other place and to be fair he has never really liked using it but he does seem to just get on with it because its easier that way.

He was castrated when he was 6 months old and he will be 6 years old in July.

Its making the whole house smell and the OH was even talking about getting rid of him but I would not let that happen.

Is he still getting used to the new house, do we need a trip to the vets or is there some other cause?

PH, its over to you.

HELP!!

snowy slopes

40,141 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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He is probably still unsettled after the move, so try to find a jumper or something that has your scent on it, and let him sleep on that, also, make sure the cat gets lots of attention, from both of you.

tim2100

6,287 posts

264 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Sounds like he is very unsettled in his new house. Maybe he can smell previous animals in the new house.

give him treats & lots of fuss. Possibly try and contain him in one room for most the time so he can fully get used to that room and the smells within it.

geeteeaye

2,369 posts

166 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Worth a trip to the vets as can sometimes be a sign of urinary tract blockage which can have serious consequences.

atlex

110 posts

166 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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+1 for stress and/or urinary infection.

Boozy

2,389 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Try some fellaway (sp) which helps settle nervous cats.

Agoogy

7,274 posts

255 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Sadly the bigger problem is no matter what you use, Harley will always smell his scent and continue to go in those places...tricky really...the restricting to one room idea might help, although could stress him out further...

Doofus

28,458 posts

180 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Boozy said:
Try some Feliway which helps settle nervous cats.
This

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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You sure it's not the missus...?

Roo

11,503 posts

214 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Boozy said:
Try some fellaway (sp) which helps settle nervous cats.
This. You can also get special spray on carpet cleaner from pets at home that bio degrades the urine to eliminate the smell.

Pcot

863 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Slashmb said:
Its making the whole house smell and the OH was even talking about getting rid of him
Listen to the OH. No one wants to live in a p1ss ridden house.

Slashmb

Original Poster:

409 posts

264 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Thank you so much everyone for your advice.

The house is a new build so there are no othe animal smells present so I can rule that out.

I'm not convinced that limiting him to one room will help as I think this would really upset him and he would start digging at the carpet to get out.

From what I can tell I don't think he has been again in a place where he has been before. It always seems to be somewhere different.

It took him an hour to come out of the cat carrier when we first brought him to the new house but our other cat, Lucy, was straight out and exploring. I wish he could be more like her. In fact she has got more balls then he has ever had.

I'm going to get some of this feliway stuff. Is a defuser better or the spray? Maybe I should get both.

Getting rid of him is not an option. We got him after he was abandoned at about 6 weeks old so I'm not putting him through that again no matter what the OH says.

Thanks again for your help.

Boozy

2,389 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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I'd get both to be honest, our youngest cat had a habit of being distressed and peeing, the plug ins worked a treat, when we moved to the States we sprayed it on their boxes and seemed to help, excellent stuff it really is.

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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As said before, quick trips to Vet to check for any problems, Feliway to help him destress, he may be having trouble settling outside and be being 'bullied' by local cats, also is it possible other cats are coming in the flap and a scent war has ensued? As for the smell on the carpet, we found bicarb under the underlay, between underlay and carpet and then a 50/50 mix of white vinegar and water sprayed on the carpet in the offending area not only stopped cat peeing but also dealt with smell. Really bad patches need hoovering and re-doing every few days but it works, well, for us anyway!

HTH

gd49

302 posts

178 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Feliway definately a good idea, go for diffusers - spray is only really meant for use in travel box/car. Ideally diffusers per room if you can afford it.

In the previous house did he used to go indoors or outdoors? If outdoors stress is very likely as he'll have to establish a new territory, which will take a little while. Either way multiple litter trays in hidden away, quiet areas of the house. Keep any litter trays obsessively clean.

Would recommend a trip to the vets, if you can get hold of a urine sample to bring with you, that'll help the vet rule out any non-stress causes. You can get special cat litter (Katkor) which doesn't absorb the urine to get a sample.

Slashmb

Original Poster:

409 posts

264 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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mrsxllifts said:
As said before, quick trips to Vet to check for any problems, Feliway to help him destress, he may be having trouble settling outside and be being 'bullied' by local cats, also is it possible other cats are coming in the flap and a scent war has ensued? As for the smell on the carpet, we found bicarb under the underlay, between underlay and carpet and then a 50/50 mix of white vinegar and water sprayed on the carpet in the offending area not only stopped cat peeing but also dealt with smell. Really bad patches need hoovering and re-doing every few days but it works, well, for us anyway!

HTH
I think he may be being bullied by local cats actually. It did happen at the other house but I thought there were less of them here than before.

No other cats are getting into our house as we have a sureflap fitted. Best £80 I ever spent for the cats. Probably paid for itself within 6 months because of how much food we were losing to other cats. That really used to upset him.

Dare I say this on PH but I actually think he is a bit gay. He never sticks up for himself and he loves any men who are at our house. He always comes to me rather than the OH and he generally minces around the place when he isn't peeing everywhere. I do love him though.

Jasandjules

70,502 posts

236 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Slashmb said:
Dare I say this on PH but I actually think he is a bit gay. He never sticks up for himself and he loves any men who are at our house. He always comes to me rather than the OH and he generally minces around the place when he isn't peeing everywhere. I do love him though.
He might just be a gentle cat. Males tend to be more affectionate.

He could easily just be stressed out about the move. You can get Valerian which also settles them down a bit (acts like it gets them stoned!). You can also get Urine Oust which removes the smell of pee from the carpet.

I take it he does have a litter tray indoors as well?



bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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This is a big topic to tackle and no quick solution but there is a lot that can be done to try and greatly improve the situation. Intitial steps:
1 - Get him vet checked, stress can = urinary problems.
2 - Get some feliway plug ins and a product called zylkene (many vets stock both these products)
3 - Make a note of what sort of areas he sprays (ie under windows, electrical items, stairs etc), when he sprays (eg just after he's been outside which is very suggestive of bullying)
4 - See if your vets has a nurse (or a vet) that deals with cat behaviour, they could offer some valuable advice)
5 - Follow any advice carefully and thoroughly, if you don't there's much less chance of it getting sorted.

http://www.fabcats.org/behaviour/spraying/index.ph...

The above link is worthwhile reading, it's an excellent site and offers excellent upto date advice.

Good luck, my guess is you have a very unhappy puddy tat at the moment

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Slashmb said:
I think he may be being bullied by local cats actually. It did happen at the other house but I thought there were less of them here than before.

No other cats are getting into our house as we have a sureflap fitted. Best £80 I ever spent for the cats. Probably paid for itself within 6 months because of how much food we were losing to other cats. That really used to upset him.

Dare I say this on PH but I actually think he is a bit gay. He never sticks up for himself and he loves any men who are at our house. He always comes to me rather than the OH and he generally minces around the place when he isn't peeing everywhere. I do love him though.
No need to be ashamed! Our 7kg Bengal is a big pussy, in both ways! He get bullied by the smallest grey thing you've ever seen, comes running through to cat flap and jumps on Mr X L, expecting him fend it off! Agree with the sure flap, its the best thing we did to a) save on food and b) the entertainment of our cat running in, folloed by 'thud' and a starry eyed cat on the door step!

Although not ethical, it may be worth deterring other cats from the garden using water pistol etc and going out with him so he can scent the garden and make it his own without others wanting to return to the water.

broken biscuit

1,633 posts

208 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Slashmb said:
Dare I say this on PH but I actually think he is a bit gay. He never sticks up for himself and he loves any men who are at our house. He always comes to me rather than the OH and he generally minces around the place when he isn't peeing everywhere. I do love him though.
Got a 6yr old ginger tom doing exactly the same. He's very camp - cries not miaows, very affectionate, runs away from anything cat/dog. A week or so ago a huge howling tomcat appeared - sat outside our place a few nights howling. Since then he's been peeing in the bath and on our sofa. Trip to the vets for a steroid jab, antibiotics etc (£45 and vet doesnt think its cystitis) and were hoping he snaps out of it, otherwise were ordering the Feliway diffusers.