How much mess will 500g of rasins cause!

How much mess will 500g of rasins cause!

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Si 330

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1,302 posts

216 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Tonight I bought a 500g bag of raisins and left them on the kitchen work top.
I could hear rustling so went in to the kitchen to find our 4 month old labradoodle has scoffed the lot.
I'm making sure my Mr's get up first in the morning as I have a feeling the kitchen floor isn't going to be pretty.

cwis

1,205 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Si 330 said:
Tonight I bought a 500g bag of raisins and left them on the kitchen work top.
I could hear rustling so went in to the kitchen to find our 4 month old labradoodle has scoffed the lot.
I'm making sure my Mr's get up first in the morning as I have a feeling the kitchen floor isn't going to be pretty.
That's going to come out at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light.... But it's fairly dry - shouldn't be too bad.

Won't be as bad as a couple of rotten apples. Don't ask me how I know.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I believe raisins are poisonous to a dog. I will go check...

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Yep - causes kidney failure. Can be fatal: http://dogstrust.org.uk/_resources/resources/facts...

Need to find out amounts now, but maybe a phone call to the vet would be appropriate? Now?

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/toxicology/f/grape...

Clinical Signs
Vomiting and jittery (hyperactive) behavior are seen immediately to within the first 24 hours after ingestion. Diarrhea may also be seen, and the vomitus and feces may contain partially digested grapes or raisins. After 24 hours, the dog may be come anorexic, lethargic and depressed. Additionally the abdomen may be painful, the dog may stop drinking and urinating. Ultimately, the kidneys fail, and without aggressive treatment, many dogs will die.

Treatment
If the raisin or grape ingestion was 2 hours or less, the veterinarian will want to induce vomiting to rid the body of the toxin and then administer activated charcoal to absorb any remaining toxin. Aggressive intravenous (IV) fluid therapy is required to keep the kidneys in good health. Additional kidney medications may be indicated, depending on the patient.

If you suspect that your pet has consumed any amount of grapes or raisins, please contact your veterinarian immediately.

Si 330

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1,302 posts

216 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Just waiting on the vets to call back, there not sure phoning some poison place, £30 bill so far.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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VETS NOW! They need to induce vomiting, this is potentially life threatening, the toxic dose is unknown. Some dogs can eat a few and die others a couple of handfuls but it's not worth the risks.

Chances are she'll need

Vomiting, bloods, charcoal to ingest and even i/v fluids for 24hrs, then another blood test a few days later, to check kidney function.

Really don't want to be alarmist but please get in touch with your vet NOW.

Sorry missed the last post. The point is toxic dose is unknown, your vets should be inducing vomiting no matter what the poisons unit says (they will prob advise this anyway) they need to see her.

madbadger

11,616 posts

251 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Raisins and Chocolate.

Not good.

Si 330

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1,302 posts

216 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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He's in the vets, they induced vomiting the raisins all came up pretty much undigested, which the vets was really pleased with. He's on fluids iv and charcoal blood tests tomorrow.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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thumbup phew, that's really good to hear.

They'll test kidneys ready to have a parameter for when they retest in 2-3 days but all good so far.

They know how to scare us, my dog was and still is a nightmare for eating the wrong things (ibuprofen, aspirin, raisns, grapes, chocolates etc) He has had a few nights of induced vomiting, drips and bloods!!

Good luck but all should be ok now.

minky monkey

1,549 posts

173 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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PH does it again.

Such a wealth of info on here. Something like that would never cross my mind!

Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Good result - knew they were nasty ,but fortunately mine don't like grapes /raisins . Point of interest -saw the apple thing - had one dog some time ago that went daft for apple cores & this one loves apple -if dropped never touches floor .Any risks ?

Si 330

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1,302 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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A big thank you to all that replied with the swift advice.
Hopefully this has saved him any long term damage.

Haighermeister

31,671 posts

167 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Glad to hear he's ok.

Proves that dogs are idiots though laugh funny things that will munch through a whole bag of raisins!!

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Sorry to sound stupid, but our rabbits love raisins, I take it as vegetarians hey're going to be OK?

They like nuts as well.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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[quote=Who me ?]Good result - knew they were nasty ,but fortunately mine don't like grapes /raisins . Point of interest -saw the apple thing - had one dog some time ago that went daft for apple cores & this one loves apple -if dropped never touches floor .Any risks ?
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Apple pips do contain cyanide but they would need to actually chew them to release this and eat quite a few of them to cause harm.

Basically there are lots of nuts, fruit and berries that have the potential to be harmful to dogs i.e. walnuts, acorns, cherries, grapes to name a few, won't stop many dogs trying them out though!


littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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mrmaggit said:
Sorry to sound stupid, but our rabbits love raisins, I take it as vegetarians hey're going to be OK?

They like nuts as well.
They can have grapes so I assume raisins are fine - it's the sugar that is bad for them though so just 1 or 2 for them!

Mine love nuts too - half a brazil a day keeps their coats lovely and glossy (feed it to them not rub it in their fur)

Glad the OP's dog is going to be ok - animals are so stupid some times!

Who me ?

7,455 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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bexVN said:
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Apple pips do contain cyanide but they would need to actually chew them to release this and eat quite a few of them to cause harm.

Basically there are lots of nuts, fruit and berries that have the potential to be harmful to dogs i.e. walnuts, acorns, cherries, grapes to name a few, won't stop many dogs trying them out though!
BexVN- ON APPLES - apart from the pips - ok ? ,as in a slice or two .Another thing he's daft about is apple pie ( and with grandson about -it's one bit for gs, ONE FOR THE DOG)

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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The occ treat of a couple of slim slices shouldn't be a problem, main drawback is the high concentration of natural sugar so just make sure it's a once or twice (max) a week treat only.

madbadger

11,616 posts

251 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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[quote=Who me ?]
Another thing he's daft about is apple pie ( and with grandson about -it's one bit for gs, ONE FOR THE DOG)
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Apple pie is not a good idea for dogs. And it is a complete waste of pie.

While a dog may be able to eat apples itself from windfalls (or straight off the tree like Roo does) the only way it gets pie is if it is fed it.

Sounds like a grandson problem. If you can't stop him doing it then I would suggest no pie for either of them. Or for every bit of pie the dog gets make the grandson eat a spoonfull of pedigree chum.