show cocker spaniel pup?

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mattman

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3,178 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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Following on from the kitten thread - we're looking for a cocker spaniel puppy - red/tan or lemon ronan preferably.
Must be from show stock rather than working please

Been trawling the web but everything seems to be way up north! frown

Ta

tenex

1,010 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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mattman said:
Must be from show stock rather than working please.
Any particular reason? (apart from the obvious)

sjc

14,308 posts

277 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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We got ours through a breeder via these people www.ormesguarde.co.uk and still goes back for grooming. holidays etc. May have retired from breeding, but will cetainly be able to point you in the right direction.
Good luck in having a permanent 2 year old under your feet!

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Edited by sjc on Sunday 19th December 08:33

mattman

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3,178 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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tenex said:
mattman said:
Must be from show stock rather than working please.
Any particular reason? (apart from the obvious)
only that we've been told they are more lazy than pups from working stock - which would suit us better!

mattman

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3,178 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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[quote=sjc]We got ours through a breeder via these people www.ormesguarde.co.uk and still goes back for grooming. holidays etc. May have retired from breeding, but will cetainly be able to point you in the right direction.
Good luck in having a permanent 2 year old under your feet!


sjc - she's gorgeous! 2 kids, 3 cats, new puppy and wife - what could go wrong? smile

susanq

638 posts

182 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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I would agree with the laziness of the show type cocker, however we have both and the 'working type' is noticeably more intelligent. He responds very quickly to new commands (albeit he took ages to house train - all sorted now, thanks to BecksVN and others input). We were originally looking for a replacement for Rory (see previous posts) and thought we were getting a show type. Turns out he's a cross and we love him as he is. Although I still wish he was a 'show'.yes

tenex

1,010 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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mattman said:
tenex said:
mattman said:
Must be from show stock rather than working please.
Any particular reason? (apart from the obvious)
only that we've been told they are more lazy than pups from working stock - which would suit us better!
If that's the case PLEASE DON'T!
I'd rather not elucidate further. I'll only get into very deep water.
Trust me.I've had a lot of experience with cockers.And I mean a lot.

sjc

14,308 posts

277 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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mattman said:
sjc said:
We got ours through a breeder via these people www.ormesguarde.co.uk and still goes back for grooming. holidays etc. May have retired from breeding, but will cetainly be able to point you in the right direction.
Good luck in having a permanent 2 year old under your feet!


sjc - she's gorgeous! 2 kids, 3 cats, new puppy and wife - what could go wrong? smile
The two kids get jealous of the puppy, as do the 3 cats. The wife thought the puppy would do instead of another sprog,you forgot that having new hall curtains isn't a good idea, and the grass gets killed with ammonia....amongst other things!
Seriously though, can highly recommend that breeder. they came on recommendation, and the bloodstock of ours is known through generations, and they only bred from stock they knew.When we go on hols,Fudgie goes back and stays with all her bro's/sister/mum/dad etc.

Edited by sjc on Sunday 19th December 21:44

magpie215

4,593 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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PMSL

you know that sms text that was doing the rounds a while back where all the words were a jumble but you could read them if they were the correct length and had the correct first and last letter....I speed read this thread title as

slow cooker spaniel pup

Had to read it again...properly lol

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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I do not believe 'show' cockers are always more lazy. They are a popular breed and have met many many cockers over the years and lazy is not a word I'd use to describe them. It's what you do with them that often determines this behaviour.

They are prone to more health problems than the working ones from my experience and they seem very prone to weight gain though so this makes them lazy!

Show cockers can get an hereditary kidney problem, worth reading up about and checking the breed line.

sjc

14,308 posts

277 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Mattman,according to their website ( info section) they've got a litter due on the 27th of December.Go on!

mattman

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3,178 posts

229 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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sjc said:
Mattman,according to their website ( info section) they've got a litter due on the 27th of December.Go on!
going on now - fingers crossed

sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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pardon my ignorance but what's the difference between working and show?

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Actually this is probably a better page

http://www.necsr.co.uk/node/5

sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Cheers, is this the same for springers?

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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There are two types, English Springers (most commonly seen) and Welsh Springers (that I personally prefer) but I'm not aware of such an obvious difference as the cockers, you will get breed line variants (in all breeds) and there will be differences between those that have been bred from working lines compared to a show bred line but I don't think they have different 'titles'.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

256 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Great, thanks

lots of research to do then before the next shooting season starts

just hope mrs envy's cat accepts a new friend!

moleamol

15,887 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
Cheers, is this the same for springers?
I would assume so but my Springer looks like a working dog to me yet his KC history has a few champions in there. I got him when he was 11 months old so I've never spoken to the breeders although the info is all there.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
Great, thanks

lots of research to do then before the next shooting season starts

just hope mrs envy's cat accepts a new friend!
I've just checked, the main difference appears to be the type of coat a show bred dog has (ie silkier) and the ears (tend to be longer in show dogs)

A couple of these pages may be worth a read (disclaimer I don't know how good they are but some useful pics all the same!)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=show+springer+spa...redfacefficial&client=firefox-a