Dog Shivering and panting

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flatsix3.6

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756 posts

188 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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One of my 8 year old labs had a Pyometra Hysterectomy last Thursday and recovery as been well, but when I got up at 5.00 am this morning she got off her bed panting and when she lies dowm she shivers almost continuousley.

Took her to the vets when they opened and he checked all her vitals and a good feel round and said everythings ok, may be it is but it looks so uncomfortable for her.

As anyone had this with their dogs after surgery, could it be anything to do with the antbiotics or pain killers she's taking which she's been on since last thursday.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Is she eating, drinking ok? Any vomiting, diarrhoea? What is the name of the painkiller? Did she over do it yesterday?

flatsix3.6

Original Poster:

756 posts

188 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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[quote=bexVN]Is she eating, drinking ok? Any vomiting, diarrhoea? What is the name of the painkiller? Did she over do it yesterday?[/quote

eating, drinking ok, no vomiting or diarrhoea.

Only been out in garden to go toilet, been on a slow walk on the lead this morning about 15 mins.

Pain killers are Metacam chew tablet 2.5 mg, 1.5 tablets a day finished off course this morning.

Piersman2

6,639 posts

206 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Sounds like it could be some kind of infection? She's on antibiotics? Maybe just have to wait for those to fight the infection?

Piglet

6,250 posts

262 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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What was her temperature? We have a dog with an auto immune disorder and her symptoms were occasionally like this. If you're not happy, I'd get her back to the vets or at least ring and have a chat.


bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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If it was infection, you'd expect a temperature which I would hope the vet would've checked.

It's good that she's eating, drinking etc, it may actually be the metacam. See how she is without it tom.

flatsix3.6

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756 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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It's good that she's eating, drinking etc, it may actually be the metacam. See how she is without it tom.
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Took her back to vets late afternoon, temp spot on but she is producing milk (phantom pregnancy) which the vet seems to think could be causing the shivering and panting.

She as had phantoms before with the panting but not the shivering, he as put her on a 5 day course of Zylkene for stress.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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Funnily enough I decided against mentioning phantom as I thought it'd be to soon as it usually occurs several weeks post routine spay. However routine does tend to go out the window when it's a pyometra so this would definitely fit! I would make sure she doesn't get clingy with her toys as this can lengthen it.

If it continues there are tx's that can help (galastop is the choice tx these days) clear it up more quickly. Would be interested to see if the Zylkene helps.

She's a lucky dog though and should get over it, Pyometras kill otherwise healthy females, so glad she came through it ok.

flatsix3.6

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756 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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bexVN said:
Funnily enough I decided against mentioning phantom as I thought it'd be to soon as it usually occurs several weeks post routine spay. However routine does tend to go out the window when it's a pyometra so this would definitely fit! I would make sure she doesn't get clingy with her toys as this can lengthen it.

If it continues there are tx's that can help (galastop is the choice tx these days) clear it up more quickly. Would be interested to see if the Zylkene helps.

She's a lucky dog though and should get over it, Pyometras kill otherwise healthy females, so glad she came through it ok.
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Thanks Bex, the reason we are so cocerned is that her sister had the same op last october without any problems, will post and let you know how things go.

SPR2

3,197 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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Mine had a fairly long phantom pregnacy earlier this year with similar symptons but have never had her spayed.I was told that having them done in latter years can make them incontinent, how true is this?

Edited by SPR2 on Tuesday 7th December 09:43

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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SPR2 said:
Mine had a fairly long phantom pregnacy erlier this year but have never had her spayed.I was told that having them done in latter years can make them incontinent, how true is this?
An ongoing and seemingly never solved argument I'm afraid, depends who you talk to.

Spaying bhes before their first season is advised against in certain breeds due to this, but even that is now being debated...again.

However one thing I can safely say I've seen far more bhes need lifesaving operations due to pyometras than I've seen incontinent bhes that you can absolutely say is due to spaying and not just due to age.

Pyo's are horrible easily preventable conditions, the success rate of recovery is much better these days but they do still die (it's a toxic condition so can cause kidney failure etc) and worst of all you are usually putting an elderly dog through a major surgical procedure. (thus noticeable increase in cost)

However I always tell clients that spaying a bh is the biggest major 'routine' op that we do in vet practice. Experienced surgically competent vets are usually much quicker (but not casual) with this op, and whilst new vets can do it, it will take them longer.

SPR2

3,197 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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bexVN said:
SPR2 said:
Mine had a fairly long phantom pregnacy erlier this year but have never had her spayed.I was told that having them done in latter years can make them incontinent, how true is this?
An ongoing and seemingly never solved argument I'm afraid, depends who you talk to.

Spaying bhes before their first season is advised against in certain breeds due to this, but even that is now being debated...again.

However one thing I can safely say I've seen far more bhes need lifesaving operations due to pyometras than I've seen incontinent bhes that you can absolutely say is due to spaying and not just due to age.

Pyo's are horrible easily preventable conditions, the success rate of recovery is much better these days but they do still die (it's a toxic condition so can cause kidney failure etc) and worst of all you are usually putting an elderly dog through a major surgical procedure. (thus noticeable increase in cost)

However I always tell clients that spaying a bh is the biggest major 'routine' op that we do in vet practice. Experienced surgically competent vets are usually much quicker (but not casual) with this op, and whilst new vets can do it, it will take them longer.
Thanks.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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I am very pro-neutering, being as how I'm in rescue.

We neuter all our dogs at 6 months old, regardless. We have never had any issues with this. We have, however, taken in unspayed bhes who have had pyo, plus with each season, the chances of mammary tumours increase dramatically. Most of the older bhes we take in need mammary strips if unspayed frown

Hope she is OK now smile