Dog attacking your dog?

Author
Discussion

pad58

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
We take our millie for a walk in these forest/hills near where we live and many a time there are other owners walking their dogs at the same time, no problem,untill this one nasty dog turns up and attacks
..well our dog realy it's a blue somethingorather.

It's just plain NASTY , the owner does'nt give a st and can't keep his dog under control.
Of course this upsets my dog and ME.
Now can i kick it or something to chase it away ,or is that not on?

Just don't know where i stand on this one.

Austin.J

888 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
I have a bichon frise, looks like a small sheep to a lot of dogs, If you don't kick them then they'll tear it to shreds. Other owners might not like it but then they should have enough control over their dogs so it doesn't happen.

Jasandjules

70,499 posts

236 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
If it came to it to protect my dog I'd kick another dog. I actually smacked a Wolf Hound on the a**e with my dog's lead once to get it away.

Nowadays I have dogs who tend to have a bit of an advantage when it comes to a scrap, as a few aggressive dogs have found out to their cost.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
I have a very insecure dog here who will kick off at other dogs if they don't throw out the right signals. I tend to put him on the lead if I see another dog that I don't know or I think will cause an issue and walk the other way quick smart. If the other dog barrels over, I put my dog behind me (and get behind a tree if I can) and use The Voice of Doom on the other dog. I can't shout as it would only reinforce my dog's already negative feelings towards some other dogs. I also find an outstretched arm in the direction of the other dog works well. Basically I protect my dog from other dogs approaching and make sure I am between him and the other dog.

Seems to work well and I haven't really had any problems, but I am very careful how I manage things with my dog. I'm not sure that I would kick another dog as such, but would use my legs/feet to move them away. I would not kick another dog if their teeth were sunk into mine for fear of doing more damage (although thinking about it I have shoved my hand in another dog's mouth to get it to release). Apparently picking the other dog up by the back legs make them release the grip.

pad58

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
I personally think the owner should keep this dog on a lead as it's Nasty.

This is the second time this has happened ,well to my dog anyhow.

If it happens again am gonna get NASTY i have had ENOUGH.

Coco H

4,237 posts

244 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Many years ago I witnessed something that really upset my family. My sister and I were in our eraly teens and out walking our dog with our parents. We were on a public footpath which we had walked down many times as we lived nearby. It was through a large field. Our lab suddenly caught sight of two other labs - all were off the lead. Our dog ran up to the other dogs and all started sniffing each other. Then the other owner shouted "get your dog away from mine. They are working. Otherwise I shall hit your dog". We called our dog back but he was having fun trying to play with the other dogs who were playing with him. So this man walked up to our lab and turned his walking stick upside down and hit our dog very hard on the head with his metal topped cane. He then told us to "F off or he would do the same to us". Our dog was howling. We took him to the vet as he had a huge amount of swelling and he nearly lost an eye. The vet was horrfied.

Jasandjules

70,499 posts

236 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Coco H said:
Many years ago I witnessed something that really upset my family. My sister and I were in our eraly teens and out walking our dog with our parents. We were on a public footpath which we had walked down many times as we lived nearby. It was through a large field. Our lab suddenly caught sight of two other labs - all were off the lead. Our dog ran up to the other dogs and all started sniffing each other. Then the other owner shouted "get your dog away from mine. They are working. Otherwise I shall hit your dog". We called our dog back but he was having fun trying to play with the other dogs who were playing with him. So this man walked up to our lab and turned his walking stick upside down and hit our dog very hard on the head with his metal topped cane. He then told us to "F off or he would do the same to us". Our dog was howling. We took him to the vet as he had a huge amount of swelling and he nearly lost an eye. The vet was horrfied.
I'd have dropped him.

Stev8s

339 posts

190 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
We have a Cavalier king charles who is 5 now but would probably not have a dog again due to being set upon by too many times by irresponsible owners who cannot control their dogs.
He has been attacked on numerous occasions and is now aggressive to other dogs currently we have an issue with a chav family across the road who think it is acceptable to let their dog run around loose in the road not on a lead and has darted across the road when we take ours out.
If it gets too close I will certainly be giving it a kick I am fed up with dog owners who cannot control their dogs.
Unfortunately my wife is too scared to take him out unless I am there this really pisses me off

pad58

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Just can't stand bullies no matter what form they come in.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Coco H said:
Many years ago I witnessed something that really upset my family. My sister and I were in our eraly teens and out walking our dog with our parents. We were on a public footpath which we had walked down many times as we lived nearby. It was through a large field. Our lab suddenly caught sight of two other labs - all were off the lead. Our dog ran up to the other dogs and all started sniffing each other. Then the other owner shouted "get your dog away from mine. They are working. Otherwise I shall hit your dog". We called our dog back but he was having fun trying to play with the other dogs who were playing with him. So this man walked up to our lab and turned his walking stick upside down and hit our dog very hard on the head with his metal topped cane. He then told us to "F off or he would do the same to us". Our dog was howling. We took him to the vet as he had a huge amount of swelling and he nearly lost an eye. The vet was horrfied.
WTF! That was an attempt to kill.

Dogs will ALWAYS have a bit of a rammy, split them up and get used to it. No excuse for that or his threatening behavior.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Stev8s said:
We have a Cavalier king charles who is 5 now but would probably not have a dog again due to being set upon by too many times by irresponsible owners who cannot control their dogs.
He has been attacked on numerous occasions and is now aggressive to other dogs currently we have an issue with a chav family across the road who think it is acceptable to let their dog run around loose in the road not on a lead and has darted across the road when we take ours out.
If it gets too close I will certainly be giving it a kick I am fed up with dog owners who cannot control their dogs.
Unfortunately my wife is too scared to take him out unless I am there this really pisses me off
yep, be a shame for the dog if it got hit by a car, some people should not be allowed pets.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
quotequote all
Mojocvh said:
Coco H said:
Many years ago I witnessed something that really upset my family. My sister and I were in our eraly teens and out walking our dog with our parents. We were on a public footpath which we had walked down many times as we lived nearby. It was through a large field. Our lab suddenly caught sight of two other labs - all were off the lead. Our dog ran up to the other dogs and all started sniffing each other. Then the other owner shouted "get your dog away from mine. They are working. Otherwise I shall hit your dog". We called our dog back but he was having fun trying to play with the other dogs who were playing with him. So this man walked up to our lab and turned his walking stick upside down and hit our dog very hard on the head with his metal topped cane. He then told us to "F off or he would do the same to us". Our dog was howling. We took him to the vet as he had a huge amount of swelling and he nearly lost an eye. The vet was horrfied.
WTF! That was an attempt to kill.

Dogs will ALWAYS have a bit of a rammy, split them up and get used to it. No excuse for that or his threatening behavior.
That is horrific, what a bd, glad your dog was ok but could so easily have not been.

Just be so careful if you ever feel the need to kick another dog (understandable reaction if your dog is in danger) as a kick in the wrong place will kill a dog, personally I wouldn't want that on my mind even if if was a nasty dog. Friends dog bled to death due to a ruptured spleen after it was kicked in the abdomen.

Peter101

1,594 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
Coco H said:
Many years ago I witnessed something that really upset my family. My sister and I were in our eraly teens and out walking our dog with our parents. We were on a public footpath which we had walked down many times as we lived nearby. It was through a large field. Our lab suddenly caught sight of two other labs - all were off the lead. Our dog ran up to the other dogs and all started sniffing each other. Then the other owner shouted "get your dog away from mine. They are working. Otherwise I shall hit your dog". We called our dog back but he was having fun trying to play with the other dogs who were playing with him. So this man walked up to our lab and turned his walking stick upside down and hit our dog very hard on the head with his metal topped cane. He then told us to "F off or he would do the same to us". Our dog was howling. We took him to the vet as he had a huge amount of swelling and he nearly lost an eye. The vet was horrfied.
I'd have dropped him.
So would I, if anyone did something like that to my dog, or I saw it happening to any other dog for that matter, that would be it. Cant stand animal cruelty.

Digga

41,311 posts

290 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
quotequote all
pad58 said:
We take our millie for a walk in these forest/hills near where we live and many a time there are other owners walking their dogs at the same time, no problem,untill this one nasty dog turns up and attacks
..
Attacks how; is it aggressive, and snarling, barring teeth, maybe nipping, or it it actually biting? Sounds pedantic, but with dogs there is a vast difference. The dog ought be under control, but having said that, as others here say, dogs will be dogs and do occasionally like to sort out hierarchy their own way.

As has been aluded, sometimes the owner's reaction can colour the dog's experience of an event; nervous owners have nervous dogs.

ETA hope this does not appear to 'critical' of OP.



Edited by Digga on Wednesday 17th November 10:52

pad58

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
quotequote all
Digga said:
pad58 said:
We take our millie for a walk in these forest/hills near where we live and many a time there are other owners walking their dogs at the same time, no problem,untill this one nasty dog turns up and attacks
..
Attacks how; is it aggressive, and snarling, barring teeth, maybe nipping, or it it actually biting? Sounds pedantic, but with dogs there is a vast difference. The dog ought be under control, but having said that, as others here say, dogs will be dogs and do occasionally like to sort out hierarchy their own way.

As has been aluded, sometimes the owner's reaction can colour the dog's experience of an event; nervous owners have nervous dogs.

ETA hope this does not appear to 'critical' of OP.



Edited by Digga on Wednesday 17th November 10:52
You must understand there are many different dogs that we meet every day and don't have a problem
untill this one particalur blue thingamagig with funny eyes approaches our dog.
It growls and snarls at my dog for no reason so our millie goes into the river where it can't or won't
get her , maybe it doesn't like water like millie but she knows this.



tenex

1,010 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
quotequote all
There is some good advice so far.
I would suggest carry a walking stick for security.
Attack my dog and you attack me.
Get yourself between the attacker and your dog (As per Mrs Grumpy and a quiet voice of doom will help as well). Don't be nervous (Digga).
Point the stick at the attacker and keep eye contact. Do not raise your arm to hit the dog but prod it on the breastbone. This confuses the attacker as it can't seem to understand how you can "hurt" it at a distance. Also it doesn't know to look at you or the end of the stick. Prodding the shoulder is ineffective. Prod as hard as is necessary to make the attacker back down. Then advance slowly.
As with all bullies, they are basically cowards when confronted.
Don't raise your arm and eye contact are both important. If the "attacker" attacks it will bite the stick not you.

pugwash4x4

7,558 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
quotequote all
pad58 said:
Digga said:
pad58 said:
We take our millie for a walk in these forest/hills near where we live and many a time there are other owners walking their dogs at the same time, no problem,untill this one nasty dog turns up and attacks
..
Attacks how; is it aggressive, and snarling, barring teeth, maybe nipping, or it it actually biting? Sounds pedantic, but with dogs there is a vast difference. The dog ought be under control, but having said that, as others here say, dogs will be dogs and do occasionally like to sort out hierarchy their own way.

As has been aluded, sometimes the owner's reaction can colour the dog's experience of an event; nervous owners have nervous dogs.

ETA hope this does not appear to 'critical' of OP.


Edited by Digga on Wednesday 17th November 10:52
You must understand there are many different dogs that we meet every day and don't have a problem
untill this one particalur blue thingamagig with funny eyes approaches our dog.
It growls and snarls at my dog for no reason so our millie goes into the river where it can't or won't
get her , maybe it doesn't like water like millie but she knows this.
stop personalising your dog- one dog growling at another (or even nippping) is normal hierachy stuff for dogs. just make sure yours is off its lead and leave them to it.

if she can get away she will- if she's really properly scared she'll run towards you and you can help.

we had all sorts of problems with agreesive dogs with ours- realised in the end its because they can't translate Barney's signals (due to having very shaggy ears and hair covering up the teeth)- he also just didn't care- other took this as a sign of dominance and territory aggression. Perfectly usual behvaiour from a dogs point of view.

just let them get on with it and do NOT put her on a lead.

If the other dog gets really nasty, then advance on it growling in a low tone, with stary eyes, if it doesn't back down then give it a slap under the jaw. if you are brave and strong enough you can always alpha hold it!

pad58

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
quotequote all
Whats ALPHA HOLD?

netstar

155 posts

216 months

Friday 19th November 2010
quotequote all
APLHA HOLD - depends on the size of the dog, if you know the dog and how brave you are if its really kicking off. But you attempt to put the dog on its side and hold it down gently but firmly with your hand over its neck. Not so you are strangling! The with your other hand hold it near its back legs. Holding it on its neck is just the way the pack leader would hold it down. Wait for the dog to relax which it will eventually. It may even show you its belly and be really submissive after. Its not cruel and its not meant to hurt the other dog. Quite often they will make such a noise but its not because you are hurting it, its because its frustrated and want to be let up. Easy once you know what you are doing!!

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

181 months

Friday 19th November 2010
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
I'd have dropped him.
Couldn't agree more