Feeding a three yr lab

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pad58

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12,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Here we go, we buy winaloads tins and sometimes with biscuits,but lately we stopped the
biscuits,because this made her loose ,if you know what i mean. ( a sod to pick up)

So we have just feed her on the tins.
My point. I t says on the tin to give a dog her size 5-6 tins a day WTF
I found this to be extreem to say the least,not the cost but the ammount that winaload says
is the RDA for a three yr old girl dog (stopped the censoring).

Two tins a day i think is enough to keep her lean and fit.

Whats your view on this one ,how many tins is you dog on?

warnerj

81 posts

173 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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My brother breeds dogs, they are not Labs but he has a variety of Boston Terriers, Beagles and Springers.

He avoids Tins like the plague, he feeds them twice a day, once in the morning which is generally a portion of biscuits and mince and in the evening, liver, chicken and biscuits. This seems to give them all the nutrients they need.It is also a cost alternative but does take time to prepare.

There is nothing wrong with tinned dog food but its not a big recommend in the dog world.

pad58

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12,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Our millies a butchers dog and I often take home beef mince,chicken,lamb ,but not pork
after two days of this she will turn her nose up at it yet with the tins, she loves them.

I mean good lord fresh untinned meat ....doesn't want to know.

warnerj

81 posts

173 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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The dog doesn't know that she's got a good thing going on!

Mix it up then, also with biscuits soak them in water before you feed her. I have no idea what it does but my brother does it all the time and it seems to work with him.

pad58

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12,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Ok But the problem of loose youknows ,the ones you can't pick up,would this then be a case
for the vets?
This was all to do with the biscuits .

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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If you haven't already try a different biscuit ones without wheat colours additives etc.

Tins 80% water but they still over estimate guidelines.

Try chappie dry (seems to suit a lot of dogs with dodge tums) mixed in with the tins (assuming you want to carry on with tins) but remember it is a complete food not a mixer so give a third of the feeding guidelines.

No need for vet yet unless you have tried different biscuits with no joy or if gets poorly or becomes chronic even without dry food.

If baked bean size tin may need to give 3 tins for nutrient value depends on activity level of the individual dog, age etc

Edited by bexVN on Thursday 11th November 13:50


Edited by bexVN on Thursday 11th November 14:00

Rouleur

7,146 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I know you're not necessarily looking for recommendations but I'll give you one anyway! Skinners Field & Trial - my Springer does really well on it and his 'waste' is consistently firm.

Don't forget to gradually mix in any new feed with the current to avoid upsetting her stomach.

pad58

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188 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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bexVN said:
If you haven't already try a different biscuit ones without wheat colours additives etc.

Tins 80% water but they still over estimate guidelines.

Try chappie dry (seems to suit a lot of dogs with dodge tums) mixed in with the tins (assuming you want to carry on with tins) but remember it is a complete food not a mixer so give a third of the feeding guidelines.
Hello again "dodge tums" would this have anything to do with her eating grass after her meal?

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Sorry that should have read dodgy tums. It's possible, it is thought animals eat grass to aid digestion. (which includes the need to vomit)

Edited by bexVN on Thursday 11th November 14:06

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
pad58 said:
Hello again "dodge tums" would this have anything to do with her eating grass after her meal?
Eating grass is normally a sign that they WANT to be ill.
Not always! some dogs just like eating grass!

pad58

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188 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
pad58 said:
Hello again "dodge tums" would this have anything to do with her eating grass after her meal?
Eating grass is normally a sign that they WANT to be ill.
Not always! some dogs just like eating grass!
My mam had a corgi which ate grass as well ,me just thinking it was a normal thing a dog does
to help digestion.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I feed my dog on raw now. He has behavioural issues so I want to make sure I eliminate everything possible that might affect it.

I feed complete raw as I really can't be faffed with storage, weighing, etc. I feed Natural Instinct but there is also Nature's Menu and Darlings.

I would NEVER feed tinned dog food. It's pretty much all crap. Likewise mixer. It's just a filler. There are some better quality, complete, dry dog foods around. Better quality means you need to feed less and there is less crap (metaphorically and physically). If I feed dry then I feed Burns as it is low protein and I don't want to feed already nutty foster dogs with high protein. Other good brands are James Wellbeloved, Skinners, Arden Grange, CSJ.

What you feed your dog can have an affect on his health (skin problems, etc), behaviour and energy levels. Upset stomach can often mean the food disagrees with him. A lot of the previously mentioned foods are hypo-allergenic.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Oscars, Pinnacle of Life, chicken and herring.

300g (150X2) a day whether he needs it or not.

He can be a fussy little bugger at times, but it all goes in the end.

He's slimmed right down onn this food from when he got the family scraps, which can only be good for joints etc.

Good solid stools too.(sorry)

He gets worked occasionally during the week when the weather is right. That is when it's blowing strong out on the Tay Estuary retrieving duck he gets 2X220g that day.

Very good value, it suits him (and us wink )and he's never been fitter/trimmer.

http://www.oscars.co.uk/productselection.ikml?id=3...

Oh Oscars DON'T euthanize dogs to test their recipes, unlike some V expensive feed manufacturers. furious

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Mrs Grumpy said:
I feed my dog on raw now. He has behavioural issues so I want to make sure I eliminate everything possible that might affect it.

I feed complete raw as I really can't be faffed with storage, weighing, etc. I feed Natural Instinct but there is also Nature's Menu and Darlings.

I would NEVER feed tinned dog food. It's pretty much all crap. Likewise mixer. It's just a filler. There are some better quality, complete, dry dog foods around. Better quality means you need to feed less and there is less crap (metaphorically and physically). If I feed dry then I feed Burns as it is low protein and I don't want to feed already nutty foster dogs with high protein. Other good brands are James Wellbeloved, Skinners, Arden Grange, CSJ.

What you feed your dog can have an affect on his health (skin problems, etc), behaviour and energy levels. Upset stomach can often mean the food disagrees with him. A lot of the previously mentioned foods are hypo-allergenic.
"He has behavioural issues " Poss blood sugar levels??

From Oscars "Divide the recommended daily feed amount in to 2 or 3 meals for juniors, 2 meals for adults and 3 meals for adult care – By
feeding little and often the digestive system works efficiently with fewer upsets. This in turn provides a more even blood sugar
level which can improve your dogs behaviour with less stress and mood swings."

Mo.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Not blood sugar levels - being tied up in a shed and beaten for two years has a lot to do with his issues frown

By feeding him raw I am just eliminating any possibility of food allergies/additives making him worse. That and a very long programme of de-sensitisation.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Good Luck.

Mo.

Anthony Micallef

1,123 posts

202 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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I dont see any problem with the tins. My Basset has a tin a day mixed in with Pedigree complete and he loves it.

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Anthony Micallef said:
I dont see any problem with the tins. My Basset has a tin a day mixed in with Pedigree complete and he loves it.
If your dog does well on them with good skin, good digestion, teeth, weight etc then all good. However tinned food has dubious ingredients, contains 80% water and sticks to teeth causing increase speed of dental disease and many dogs it's too rich for them.

Nobody will ever agree on a correct diet. I have my opinions however when I assess a dog I look at the above before I say if what they are feeding is right or not.

pad58

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12,548 posts

188 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Our millie in very good health, her coat is good apart from the molting,
eyes sharp,teeth hurt so it's all good,par the stools if we give her biscuits.

So maybe it's time to change the brand ?

bexVN

14,682 posts

218 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Yes. If you know they're the problem you need to stop giving them. Suggestions mentioned earlier.