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Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

235 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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My dog has 2 issues. Both can be managed, but I would prefer not having to. Any 'at home' suggestions I can use in place of a dog trainer?

Issue 1

Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs

Issue 2

Aggression towards other dogs (but only if they show aggression first)

trickywoo

12,269 posts

237 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Have its nuts been cut off?

cal72

7,839 posts

177 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

199 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Stevenj214 said:
My dog has 2 issues. Both can be managed, but I would prefer not having to. Any 'at home' suggestions I can use in place of a dog trainer?

Issue 1

Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs

Issue 2

Aggression towards other dogs (but only if they show aggression first)
Buy a cat?

Sorry, both seem perfectly normal for a dog and I doubt you can train it not to be possessive of it's toys or return aggression...

oOTomOo

594 posts

198 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Learn the words "Aawww he/she is really posessive over his/her toys" and "well your dog started it"

halo34

2,890 posts

206 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Stevenj214 said:
My dog has 2 issues. Both can be managed, but I would prefer not having to. Any 'at home' suggestions I can use in place of a dog trainer?

Issue 1

Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs

Issue 2

Aggression towards other dogs (but only if they show aggression first)
Seems to have the perfectly normal patterns of a dog to me, whats the issue?

Wildsea

1,855 posts

217 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Not a "at home suggestion" but take them to a good dog training class biggrin .
These problems will benefit from an experience trainer who can see how the dogs react rather than a book or DVD.



Edited by Wildsea on Friday 5th November 14:02

snowy slopes

40,104 posts

194 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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yeah sounds normal to me, most dogs act like that, and cats for that matter

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

259 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Stevenj214 said:
My dog has 2 issues. Both can be managed, but I would prefer not having to. Any 'at home' suggestions I can use in place of a dog trainer?

Issue 1

Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs

Issue 2

Aggression towards other dogs (but only if they show aggression first)
Worst "my dogs normal" post, ever.

Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

235 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Fair enough if that's considered normal. My main concern was over other people and their reactions. I'm happy just to deal with it, but I thought others might take a different view.

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

199 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Stevenj214 said:
Fair enough if that's considered normal. My main concern was over other people and their reactions. I'm happy just to deal with it, but I thought others might take a different view.
If their dog has started being aggressive and yours turns round to the little dog that's shouting "oy you big nancy boy I'm going to bite your paws off" and replies "come on then you fking little noisy st" I don't see the problem, simply turn to the owner and say "sorry, he doesn't like aggressive dogs, he likes to teach them a lesson"

Our little whippet once got annoyed because a big poodle came running upto it and barking, so the little whippet pulled out of his collar (his head was smaller than his neck!) and grabbed the massive poodle by the neck and started ripping fur off it.

The owner came out and angrily shouted at me and my dad, we turned round and advised them that any vets bills for our dog that had been attacked while on its lead would be forwarded to them....

...they took their big vicious dog away dripping blood, our little whippet came and sat down while we put his collar back on and continued walking as if nothing had happened, I miss him, he was a right character! hehe

Dogs will protect their toys and most will start the barking etc, if yours is returning the barking, it's nothing to worry about, just keep walking with him...


cal72

7,839 posts

177 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Depending on the dog, this may not be an issue but if the dog gets hold of something that it should not have how would you feel if a kid tried to take it back??

Stevenj214 said:
Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs
Depending on size of dog, when out and about are you in control at all times.
Stevenj214 said:
Aggression towards other dogs (but only if they show aggression first)
Both are issues that you can change, i bought the book (it's me or the dog) that was recomended to me and it worked on our lab dog.
We have just recently refered back to it as we have our in-laws dog who has a few habbits that we need to stop.

Georgiegirl

869 posts

216 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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"Oy you big nancy boy I'm going to bite your paws off."

Brilliant!!!

Edited by Georgiegirl on Friday 5th November 14:21

Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

235 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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cal72 said:
Depending on the dog, this may not be an issue but if the dog gets hold of something that it should not have how would you feel if a kid tried to take it back??
Absolutely fine. He has no issues towards humans at all.

cal72 said:
Stevenj214 said:
Toy/Food possessiveness towards other dogs
Depending on size of dog, when out and about are you in control at all times.
Border collie, fully in control, great recall. Only issue is if he gets close to another dog which is aggressive towards him. If meeting a strange dog on lead, I put him to heel. Strange dog off lead, I keep him close until I'm close enough to deal with any aggro.

Stevenj214

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Friday 5th November 2010
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Just noticed this new board. Must change my favourites!

Moo27

395 posts

180 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Fist of all, can i just say, this behavious is not normal! And far from right!

Secondly, the book 'its me or the dog' is absolutely fantastic!!!

The possesiveness of its food is something that can be easily rectified, but will take time.

As hard as it is, you need to start taking his food away from him whilst he is eating. Make him sit for a while. Pretend to play with his food, pretend to eat it yourself... then put it back down and let him finish eating it!

Start off by doing this only once during his tea time, after a couple of days increase it by taking it away twice, and then finish up by doing it 3 times. If he shows agression towards you when you take the food away, first of all, make sure he has his lead on, so that you can take the food away, whilst someone else can control him on his lead.

Eventually, and this can take weeks rather than days, he will learn he will get his food back, so will stop grizzling.

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS praise him when he sits still and shows no agression. Dogs learn SO much by love and praise.

I had this exact same situation with one of my dogs from a rescue centre, cos he had been starved previously, so was incredibly possesive over his food, toys everything. But with time and patience he became the most placid dog you have ever met in your life!

Good Luck.

Stevenj214

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Friday 5th November 2010
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Moo27 said:
The possesiveness of its food is something that can be easily rectified, but will take time.

As hard as it is, you need to start taking his food away from him whilst he is eating. Make him sit for a while. Pretend to play with his food, pretend to eat it yourself... then put it back down and let him finish eating it!

Start off by doing this only once during his tea time, after a couple of days increase it by taking it away twice, and then finish up by doing it 3 times. If he shows agression towards you when you take the food away, first of all, make sure he has his lead on, so that you can take the food away, whilst someone else can control him on his lead.

Eventually, and this can take weeks rather than days, he will learn he will get his food back, so will stop grizzling.

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS praise him when he sits still and shows no agression. Dogs learn SO much by love and praise.

I had this exact same situation with one of my dogs from a rescue centre, cos he had been starved previously, so was incredibly possesive over his food, toys everything. But with time and patience he became the most placid dog you have ever met in your life!

Good Luck.
Like I said, he has absolutely no issues with humans. I (or anyone else) can take his food away, take it out of his mouth, anything like that. No aggression at all. It's only towards other dogs.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

196 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Behaviour is quite normal - resource guarding from other dogs and telling off rude dogs. You seem to manage it quite well and have a well trained dog.

I would certainly not be taking his food away from him or anything else he wants - not without swapping it for something of higher value. If you just take things away from him he will learn he was right to guard it and just up the ante. Better to add food to his bowl as you walk past so he sees your approach as non-threatening and A Good Thing. Anyway, as I understand it, he is not a resourve guarder around people.

Really good article here on rude dogs: http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/42/70/
He Just Wants To Say "Hi!"

Aggression or appropriate response to rudeness? Far too many dogs suffer because handlers & trainers don't know the difference between the two.

By Suzanne Clothier

A book I would very much recommend is The Complete Idiots Guide to Positive Dog Training by Pamela Dennsion. Very well written, easy to understand and logical.

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

258 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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This sounds perfectly normal. I'm currently 'teaching' mine to share toys - spending time playing with them together and praising lots them for nice play. I have two of the favourite items! I spoke to the vet nurse who is a behaviourist and she stressed the importance of teaching them how to share greetings, play and mealtimes (potential areas of jealousy which can escalate).

Dennis99

308 posts

170 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Advice on possessive dogs from Dogs Trust:

http://www.youtube.com/user/DogsTrust#p/c/D2AE6AF6...

Edited by Dennis99 on Friday 5th November 15:17