Petition for better treatment for invertebrates
Discussion
May seem random. But this is a petition my daughter is implementing. She has a point and said I would rightly share where I can. Anyone willing to sign it. Pass it on or help it grow a bit would be much appreciated.
Also welcome and counter discussions! Eeek
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/736245
Also welcome and counter discussions! Eeek
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/736245
CoolHands said:
I don t know what an invertebrate is.
Is this to stop people fishing?!
could be a controversial topic
Animal without a backbone and by extension an internal skeleton.Is this to stop people fishing?!
could be a controversial topicFish, including sharks, are vertebrates, This petition does not cover fish.
Edited by Super Sonic on Thursday 8th January 20:54
^^. Exactly that. Think locusts, grubs, spiders etc in the uk there are basically not covered by animal welfare legislation. And treatment can be quite bad.
Understanding many are bread as food for other pets. Yet animals bread as food for humans have many more rights. And much better treatment/conditions
As said above its is possible that some invertebrates are very much sentient. Yet we treat them as poo.
Grateful for any and all singnings. I’m no melt. But she has a good point I feel.
Understanding many are bread as food for other pets. Yet animals bread as food for humans have many more rights. And much better treatment/conditions
As said above its is possible that some invertebrates are very much sentient. Yet we treat them as poo.
Grateful for any and all singnings. I’m no melt. But she has a good point I feel.
She’s now posting it on various forums and sent me one of her submissions. Soz to spam etc but she put it much better than me!
petition.parliament.uk
(For those of you in the UK) to add invertebrates to the Animal Welfare Act.
This would mean all captive invertebrates would legally have to be protected for pain, suffering and disease, they would have the right to a suitable environment, diet, the right to exhibit natural behaviour and be kept with or apart from other animals.
At the moment, very few captive invertebrates are covered by any welfare legislation at all meaning people take advantage of them.
The petition needs 10,000 signatures to be accepted by the government and 100,000 to be potentially discussed on parliament.
I appreciate you taking the time to do this and I hope y
ou (and your tarantulas) are all well.
Thank you!
petition.parliament.uk
(For those of you in the UK) to add invertebrates to the Animal Welfare Act.
This would mean all captive invertebrates would legally have to be protected for pain, suffering and disease, they would have the right to a suitable environment, diet, the right to exhibit natural behaviour and be kept with or apart from other animals.
At the moment, very few captive invertebrates are covered by any welfare legislation at all meaning people take advantage of them.
The petition needs 10,000 signatures to be accepted by the government and 100,000 to be potentially discussed on parliament.
I appreciate you taking the time to do this and I hope y
ou (and your tarantulas) are all well.
Thank you!
mini me said:
^^. Exactly that. Think locusts, grubs, spiders etc in the uk there are basically not covered by animal welfare legislation.
I think there are more important things to tackle with what's left of this country's puny resources. We can't even fix the roads, look after the elderly or house the homeless. The doctors are striking, the schools are falling apart. And she wants the nation to worry about grubs? What about woodlice eh? Should I go outside, rescue all the poor woodlice in my garden and bring them into the warm, dab the dry with a Q-tip and the feed them luxury woodlouse food so that when the Inspector for Care of Invertebrates (salary starts at £50Kpa + pension + 4 weeks holiday) makes his daily rounds tomorrow I won't be prosecuted and fined? Has she no homework to do? Frankly, 'Bah!'PS Freedom for Tooting!
Yes please go outside now and search for woodlice. When you are done you can setup some petitions for these pressing matters you feel strongly about. If of course, like my daughter you have the mental capacity to both complete your homework and also have time for extra curricular activities.
Simpo Two said:
I think there are more important things to tackle with what's left of this country's puny resources. We can't even fix the roads, look after the elderly or house the homeless. The doctors are striking, the schools are falling apart. And she wants the nation to worry about grubs? What about woodlice eh? Should I go outside, rescue all the poor woodlice in my garden and bring them into the warm, dab the dry with a Q-tip and the feed them luxury woodlouse food so that when the Inspector for Care of Invertebrates (salary starts at £50Kpa + pension + 4 weeks holiday) makes his daily rounds tomorrow I won't be prosecuted and fined? Has she no homework to do? Frankly, 'Bah!'
PS Freedom for Tooting!
Seems a bit churlish, at best. Different people have different interests and passions. I thought it was a polite request for assistance for the man's daughter. It's entirely possible to scroll on past, rather than pee on someone else's chips. PS Freedom for Tooting!
Super Sonic said:
CoolHands said:
I don t know what an invertebrate is.
Is this to stop people fishing?! could be a controversial topic
Animal without a backbone and by extension an internal skeleton.Is this to stop people fishing?!
could be a controversial topicFish, including sharks, are vertebrates, This petition does not cover fish.
Edited by Super Sonic on Thursday 8th January 20:54
Whilst I agree in principle, unfortunately it's an area where I don't trust a government to legislate effectively.
As an example - coral. Aquacultured coral by effectively hobbyists is doing great things to repopulate reefs - however to do so means polyps do get killed in the process. Each polyp technically being a single invertebrate.
Even 'worse' for the incredible work on captive coral breeding being done by Jamie Craggs.
So this is incredibly important, globally useful British activity that would likely fall foul of any legislation the muppets in Westminster could come up with.
As an example - coral. Aquacultured coral by effectively hobbyists is doing great things to repopulate reefs - however to do so means polyps do get killed in the process. Each polyp technically being a single invertebrate.
Even 'worse' for the incredible work on captive coral breeding being done by Jamie Craggs.
So this is incredibly important, globally useful British activity that would likely fall foul of any legislation the muppets in Westminster could come up with.
I wonder if the OP’s daughter has researched the effects her petition would have on British shellfish fishermen.
Oysters are eaten alive. Shrimp need to be boiled as soon as possible after catching, often on the boat, to ensure safety. Of course, there is a debate about the most humane way to cook/kill crabs and lobsters. I don’t know what she would propose to ensure cockles, clams, winkles and whelks do not suffer.
But I could see such legislation wiping out an important sector of the British fishing industry.
Oysters are eaten alive. Shrimp need to be boiled as soon as possible after catching, often on the boat, to ensure safety. Of course, there is a debate about the most humane way to cook/kill crabs and lobsters. I don’t know what she would propose to ensure cockles, clams, winkles and whelks do not suffer.
But I could see such legislation wiping out an important sector of the British fishing industry.
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