Having dogs capable of killing you, and others
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Similar to leaving a loaded gun in your house, I can’t figure out the mentality of people who get Rottweilers and other dogs that could easily kill them or their family if they decided to.
I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re raised, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a lion and said they trained it well people would say they’re mad, yet large dogs don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and attacks that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re raised, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a lion and said they trained it well people would say they’re mad, yet large dogs don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and attacks that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
Lefty said:
Pretty much any dog could rip your throat out.
Indeed, Many years ago a West Highland White which belonged to a neighbour ripped a lump out of our family dog's rear leg which needed surgery and a number of stitches, it was known to be a horrible dog but of course the owners thought it was their baby. Rottweilers are incredibly intelligent and placid dogs by nature, as are Staffordshire Terriers, both get a hugely unjustified bad reputation.
If you cross either of them with silly things you’ll get something with completely different characteristics, but it’s absolutely not true that well bred examples of either are just time bombs waiting to go off.
As always, it’s the human factor and how they’re brought up and socialised / trained. You can give an idiot a tyre wrench and they’ll manage to kill someone with it.
Dogs can be absolutely phenomenal companions and family members, and if you’re not a dog person it’s very easy to just take a view on the physical appearance of a dog and assume it’s going to be a brute. People keep all manner of snakes and spiders etc that are venomous.
You won’t find a more loving companion and people oriented dog than a well bred Staffordshire terrier, but people who don’t know dogs will cross the road because of rubbish spread about them.
Rottweilers are the same. I’ve had both. Unbelievably good and intelligent dogs. I prefer them to a lot of people I’ve met.
If you cross either of them with silly things you’ll get something with completely different characteristics, but it’s absolutely not true that well bred examples of either are just time bombs waiting to go off.
As always, it’s the human factor and how they’re brought up and socialised / trained. You can give an idiot a tyre wrench and they’ll manage to kill someone with it.
Dogs can be absolutely phenomenal companions and family members, and if you’re not a dog person it’s very easy to just take a view on the physical appearance of a dog and assume it’s going to be a brute. People keep all manner of snakes and spiders etc that are venomous.
You won’t find a more loving companion and people oriented dog than a well bred Staffordshire terrier, but people who don’t know dogs will cross the road because of rubbish spread about them.
Rottweilers are the same. I’ve had both. Unbelievably good and intelligent dogs. I prefer them to a lot of people I’ve met.
Misanthroper said:
Similar to leaving a loaded gun in your house, I can’t figure out the mentality of people who get Rottweilers and other dogs that could easily kill them or their family if they decided to.
I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re raised, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a lion and said they trained it well people would say they’re mad, yet large dogs don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and attacks that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
Lions have not been domesticated. Dogs have been bred to behave in certain ways according to their breed type. Hunting, herding, guarding, companionship etc. Vicious behaviour is not a desirable trait and has been largely bred out over the last thousand years or so. Rottweilers are thought to have originated from the dogs the Roman army used to guard the cattle they travel with.I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re raised, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a lion and said they trained it well people would say they’re mad, yet large dogs don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and attacks that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
Similar to leaving a loaded gun in your house, I can’t figure out the mentality of people who get SUV's and other cars that could easily kill them or their family if they decided to.
I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re driven, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a tank and said they drove it well people would say they’re mad, yet large SUV's don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and accidents that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
I know the usual tired responses will be put forward, it’s how they’re driven, they’re part of the family etc etc but at the end of the day how insane do you have to be to deliberately take the risk?
If someone got a tank and said they drove it well people would say they’re mad, yet large SUV's don’t get the same common sense applied, despite the deaths and accidents that happen.
Some people you just can’t reach, why even take the risk? Its completely unnecessary, and in any other context the owners would be viewed as pretty stupid, but people are happy to ignore the fact despite the danger to them and others, go figure.
Maybe it’s a inadequacy thing, similar to why chavs have dangerous dogs to feel tough and important, showing some sort of dominance over an animal that could rip you apart if it chose.
Lincsls1 said:
^^^ Yes. A stupid thread. 
Why do we do many of the 'dangerous' things that have the potential to kill us?
I'm pretty sure that some of the mad girlfriends I've had over the years were far more dangerous to me than the 2 Akitas I've had.
Why do we do many of the 'dangerous' things that have the potential to kill us?
I'm pretty sure that some of the mad girlfriends I've had over the years were far more dangerous to me than the 2 Akitas I've had.
Edited by Lincsls1 on Thursday 22 August 21:30
My GSD could theoretically kill me or the kids with relative ease.
He's 8 in a few weeks and has never bitten anyone in his life.
There's a huge distinction between large dogs and large dogs bred to fight.
It's like saying every nurse is capable of being another Lucy Letby. In theory yes, in practice, barking mad.
He's 8 in a few weeks and has never bitten anyone in his life.
There's a huge distinction between large dogs and large dogs bred to fight.
It's like saying every nurse is capable of being another Lucy Letby. In theory yes, in practice, barking mad.
Wrong question. Why do people train dogs to be aggressive or take on dogs that have been bred for aggression? Any dog can kill, fortunately most are just man's best friend. Most large dogs are the best behaved friendly dogs as with their size they need to be trained well when young. Breeds like Rottis make great family pets. The tragedy is that in rare cases illness and pain can make any dog aggressive and dangerous, owners need to spot the warnings.
Its very different where dogs bred for aggression are concerned, they can be fine but even in the best cases a dog can turn or misinterpret to perceive a threat that causes them to attack. You will most likely survive if a JRD goes loopy and attacks, Japanese Akito is a different matter.
Its very different where dogs bred for aggression are concerned, they can be fine but even in the best cases a dog can turn or misinterpret to perceive a threat that causes them to attack. You will most likely survive if a JRD goes loopy and attacks, Japanese Akito is a different matter.
And then there's black dogs.
I never realised there was this anti-black-dog thing until I got one and noticed the number of non-dog-owners who were yelling "that dog is dangerous and should be on a lead".
My current one is black and is no more dangerous than the two border collies I had before him. And everyone loved them.
Here he is, warming up to rip your throat out
I never realised there was this anti-black-dog thing until I got one and noticed the number of non-dog-owners who were yelling "that dog is dangerous and should be on a lead".
My current one is black and is no more dangerous than the two border collies I had before him. And everyone loved them.
Here he is, warming up to rip your throat out
QBee said:
My current one is black and is no more dangerous than the two border collies I had before him. And everyone loved them.
Yours may well be pleasant, but I (and a few others going by some PH threads) have bumped into a few aggressive collies, some nasty enough to bite. YMMVEdited by Olivera on Friday 23 August 15:12
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