Bully xl problem

[BigsimonY]

Hi folks. So my sister in law has a bully xl problem. The problem is... Well she has one. It's NOT been issued a exemption certificate, the date has passed. Now she's no longer in a position to look after it. I'm assuming cat & dog homes won't take them in. So putting the dog down is the only solution? 2nd problem she has.... I really don't think she can afford vet fees to have the dog put down.

[bennno]

BigsimonY said:

Hi folks. So my sister in law has a bully xl problem. The problem is... Well she has one. It's NOT been issued a exemption certificate, the date has passed. Now she's no longer in a position to look after it. I'm assuming cat & dog homes won't take them in. So putting the dog down is the only solution? 2nd problem she has.... I really don't think she can afford vet fees to have the dog put down.

Is this a wind up post?

She is committing an offence under the dangerous dogs act, she urgently needs to call 101 or contact her local police force asap.

[moorx]

BigsimonY said:

Hi folks. So my sister in law has a bully xl problem. The problem is... Well she has one. It's NOT been issued a exemption certificate, the date has passed. Now she's no longer in a position to look after it. I'm assuming cat & dog homes won't take them in. So putting the dog down is the only solution? 2nd problem she has.... I really don't think she can afford vet fees to have the dog put down.

This may come across as harsh, but tell your SIL to do whatever the female equivalent of 'grow a pair' is and take responsibility for the sentient creature she committed to care for when she got it.

If she can't afford to have the poor dog put to sleep, how was she planning to fund any illness or injury it might have had?

Perhaps I am a little sensitive, having recently been in the position of having to have a much loved dog put to sleep, but tough. Tell her to step up.

[Cobstar]

Try contacting Save Our Seized Dogs for advice for the owner on Breed Specific Legislation.
www.saveourseizeddogs.org
[e-mail]

[Youforreal.]

And people wonder why these dogs have issues!

[alabbasi]

This thread is a great example of where a dog is being labelled as the problem, even though it's obvious what the problem is.

[Cotty]

alabbasi said:

This thread is a great example of where a dog is being labelled as the problem, even though it's obvious what the problem is.

The breed is the problem that's why they are banned. All the owners think they are lovely and couldn't hurt a fly right up to the point they start taking chunks out of people.

[redback911]

BigsimonY said:

Hi folks. So my sister in law has a bully xl problem. The problem is... Well she has one. It's NOT been issued a exemption certificate, the date has passed. Now she's no longer in a position to look after it. I'm assuming cat & dog homes won't take them in. So putting the dog down is the only solution? 2nd problem she has.... I really don't think she can afford vet fees to have the dog put down.

Well done for trying to help. Looks like the best advice has already been provided, call or go to the police.

"Contact your local police force without delay. It’s a move that signals compliance and a willingness to rectify the situation while providing essential insights into the repercussions and necessary steps to take."

If she is found out and not seen to be actively trying to resolve the situation she could face a criminal conviction and fine, although it may already be too late.

https://cbtdogbehaviour.com/xl-bully-deadline-miss...

[LRDefender]

My understanding is certain dog rescues in Europe are still willing to accept British XL Bully type dogs, although the lack of action from your SIL has probably confounded the issue. IMO this would be the best option but if your SIL lacks dollars to help facilitate any willing European dog rescue to actually help the pupper then positive outcomes are not looking good.

Your SIL has let this poor dog down.

[alabbasi]

Cotty said:

The breed is the problem that's why they are banned. All the owners think they are lovely and couldn't hurt a fly right up to the point they start taking chunks out of people.

It sounds like what you're saying is that the owners don't know anything about the breed and that you're the expert. Typical nanny state stuff.

[bennno]

alabbasi said:

This thread is a great example of where a dog is being labelled as the problem, even though it's obvious what the problem is.

The dog breed is the fundamental problem, divided by the IQ of the owner, multiplied by 10 if it’s a council estate, multiplied by 10 if the owner is under 25.

[Cotty]

alabbasi said:

It sounds like what you're saying is that the owners don't know anything about the breed and that you're the expert. Typical nanny state stuff.

What I am saying and has been proved numerous times is that dogs of that breed can and have killed people.

[loskie]

OP see if your sister can find a PDSA near her and speak to them.

[Youforreal.]

Cotty said:

alabbasi said:

It sounds like what you're saying is that the owners don't know anything about the breed and that you're the expert. Typical nanny state stuff.

What I am saying and has been proved numerous times is that dogs of that breed can and have killed people.

As can many other big breed dogs but they are lucky enough not to be owned mostly by the thug life and dhead fraternity.

I’ve had bull breed dogs for over 30 years, never shown a tooth to a human being in their life, been the most loving dog breed Ive ever encountered.

Genetically any dog can have issues, bad and unregulated breeding doesn’t help but 99% of these issues are down to the dogs upbringing and the way it’s been treated as in the decades I’ve owned them, I’ve never had an issue.

Any bull breed dog (or any other breed for that matter) that shows any human aggression should be put to sleep.

Edited by Youforreal. on Thursday 8th August 11:41

[Cotty]

Youforreal. said:

Any bull breed dog (or any other breed for that matter) that shows any human aggression should be put to sleep.

If only that was the case. I have just come back from a walk and encountered a guy with a husky. My spidey senses were tingling as this dog was eyeing me up and the guy was hesitant as if he knew something was going to happen, I decided to give them a wide berth and the husky lunged for me. God know what it would have done if it hadn't been on the lead,

[PurpleTurtle]

Without letting the thread plunge into a binfight of the pros/cons of the breed or the sensibilities of the OP's sister, let's just try and keep it on the level: he has come here for help in dealing with a specific problem where his sister has likely had her head in the sand for whatever reason.

Let's just try and help him achieve those ends.

Some useful advice from the Dogs Trust here: https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/dog-advice/life-with-...

[PurpleTurtle]

LRDefender said:

My understanding is certain dog rescues in Europe are still willing to accept British XL Bully type dogs, although the lack of action from your SIL has probably confounded the issue. IMO this would be the best option but if your SIL lacks dollars to help facilitate any willing European dog rescue to actually help the pupper then positive outcomes are not looking good.

Your SIL has let this poor dog down.

According to this it is illegal to rehome, sell, buy, or transfer ownership of an XL Bully dog to another person., no geographic exclusions mentioned.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ban-on-xl-bully-dogs#i...

I think calling the cops is the only (legal) option now.

Not sure what they say though? Do they allow a late exemption if she complies, or is it a one-way trip to the vets that the SiL will be made to pay for?

[Cotty]

PurpleTurtle said:

Without letting the thread plunge into a binfight of the pros/cons of the breed or the sensibilities of the OP's sister, let's just try and keep it on the level: he has come here for help in dealing with a specific problem where his sister has likely had her head in the sand for whatever reason.

Sorry but I thought the first post answered the question by suggesting she call the police on 101.

[Cobstar]

Youforreal. said:

I’ve had bull breed dogs for over 30 years, never shown a tooth to a human being in their life, been the most loving dog breed Ive ever encountered.

Genetically any dog can have issues, bad and unregulated breeding doesn’t help but 99% of these issues are down to the dogs upbringing and the way it’s been treated as in the decades I’ve owned them, I’ve never had an issue.

I think there are many responsible owners of XL Bullies who have the same positive experience of bull breeds as Youforreal.

If I were the OP or the OP’s SIL and the dog was a loving dog I would first seek advice from some of the dog welfare or breed specific legislation organisations already mentioned to see what options are available. I personally hate the thought of a healthy, well mannered dog being destroyed through no fault of their own if there is an alternative. Such organisations may be able to help with funding to comply with legal requirements.

From what I have read some owner’s have been able to register and comply with law retrospectively. I also saw an example of a dog being reclassified as not meeting XL Bully ‘type descriptor’ so no longer being required to meet compliance requirements.

[Youforreal.]

Cobstar said:

Youforreal. said:

I’ve had bull breed dogs for over 30 years, never shown a tooth to a human being in their life, been the most loving dog breed Ive ever encountered.

Genetically any dog can have issues, bad and unregulated breeding doesn’t help but 99% of these issues are down to the dogs upbringing and the way it’s been treated as in the decades I’ve owned them, I’ve never had an issue.

I think there are many responsible owners of XL Bullies who have the same positive experience of bull breeds as Youforreal.

If I were the OP or the OP’s SIL and the dog was a loving dog I would first seek advice from some of the dog welfare or breed specific legislation organisations already mentioned to see what options are available. I personally hate the thought of a healthy, well mannered dog being destroyed through no fault of their own if there is an alternative. Such organisations may be able to help with funding to comply with legal requirements.

From what I have read some owner’s have been able to register and comply with law retrospectively. I also saw an example of a dog being reclassified as not meeting XL Bully ‘type descriptor’ so no longer being required to meet compliance requirements.

Thanks, it’s just sometimes frustrating trying to get across that they are all not just killing machines waiting to snap.

I’ll also not in any way try to defend the horrific incidents that have happened and sadly, people lost their lives :-( nobody will fully know the circumstances that that dog was in up until the time it happened but broad brushing every bull breed dog as a killer is just as wrong.

One of the biggest mistakes that some owners make is thinking my dog can do no wrong, that’s is the most dangerously stupid approach to owning a bull breed, they are extremely strong and potentially a loaded gun in the wrong hands.