Help with bird identification

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Gasolina

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256 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Found this bird outside my house 2 days ago. Think it may have flown into the window. I picked it up, took it in and it’s now up and about, eating drinking and singing, living in the cat basket.

I assumed it was a canary but not certain. Nobody local seems to have lost a bird so now I need to know if I should keep it safe or be letting it go if it is a wild bird.




Edited by Gasolina on Saturday 5th August 21:14

Simpo Two

86,671 posts

271 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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I've no idea, but wouldn't it like some sort of cosy nest to sleep in in that box?

I do like the idea of a canary in the cat basket though. Hope the cat doesn't find out!

Huntsman

8,157 posts

256 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Yellow hammer?

Gasolina

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Saturday 5th August 2023
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From my googling I’m of the opinion it’s either a yellowhammer, in which case I should let it go, or it’s a canary, in which case I shouldn’t. This is my dilemma.

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

74 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Is that a ring on its foot? If so it has an owner.

Could be a finch or siskin of some sort.

Gasolina

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Yes it has a ring on its leg

Silvanus

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29 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Gasolina said:
From my googling I’m of the opinion it’s either a yellowhammer, in which case I should let it go, or it’s a canary, in which case I shouldn’t. This is my dilemma.
Doesn't look like a yellow hammer, certainly a finch of some sort, could be an escaped canary

Gasolina

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Simpo Two said:
I've no idea, but wouldn't it like some sort of cosy nest to sleep in in that box?

I do like the idea of a canary in the cat basket though. Hope the cat doesn't find out!
That’s one major problem. My tomcat has heard it singing and is camped outside the door of the spare bedroom where I’m keeping it.

Geertsen

853 posts

65 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Is it a closed ring?

This website might help:

https://app.bto.org/euring/lang/pages/rings.jsp

Gasolina

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Geertsen said:
Is it a closed ring?

This website might help:

https://app.bto.org/euring/lang/pages/rings.jsp
Excellent. Will contact them in the morning.

Thanks for that.

Edited by Gasolina on Saturday 5th August 23:24

Geertsen

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65 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Gasolina said:
Geertsen said:
Is it a closed ring?

This website might help:

https://app.bto.org/euring/lang/pages/rings.jsp
Excellent. Will contact them in the morning.

Thanks for that.
beer

I assume the ring was purchased here (based on the ‘BC’ under the heading ‘Standard Rings’):

https://www.britishbirdcouncil.com/closed-ring-pur...

Gasolina

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Saturday 5th August 2023
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I doubt they will be working on Sundays, so my visitor will have to put up with the cat basket for now.

Impressive result though on a car website. I can tell the difference between a 67 and 68 Camaro and can immediately spot whether a 997 Porsche is gen 1 or gen 2 but my twitcher knowledge is minimal.

I will post when it gets sorted. Tx everyone

Edited by Gasolina on Sunday 6th August 00:01

moorx

3,756 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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Great thread. Hope bird and owner are reunited.

Mr Magooagain

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176 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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Looks like a canary/finch cross.

Gasolina

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Monday 7th August 2023
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Geertsen said:
Is it a closed ring?

This website might help:

https://app.bto.org/euring/lang/pages/rings.jsp
I think I may eventually be getting somewhere. The only humans directly contactable by phone at the RSPB are the fund collectors and they can't help with any ID. I have also emailed RSPB but have not had a reply.

The British Trust for Ornithology tell me that they do not think it is a wild bird, otherwise it would have a secondary metal ring. They said it is likely to be an escaped aviary or cage bird. They also say that even though we have the numbers on the brown tag, there is probably no way of tracing it?????

I then spoke to someone at the Martin Mere wildfowl wetland centre who was very helpful and said from the photos, it was likely to be an escaped canary. They said it wouldn't last very long in the wild.They also suggested putting it out on a local page on social media and contacting local vets. I have already done both of these things.

I think they are probably right and it isn't a wild bird, as now it has settled down, it is very friendly, seems to like company and is not even phased by the vacuum cleaner.

Looks like I will be buying a cage and donating it to my mum to look after. Just as well I didn't let it go free over the weekend.

So a happy ending!. Thanks everyone for the input.





General Price

5,386 posts

189 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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It is obviously a pet/aviary bird.If you put a wild bird in a cage like that it would go crazy every time you went near.I rescued a finch that couldn't fly and every time you went near its cage all hell broke loose.biggrin

Slow.Patrol

770 posts

20 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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There is a really good app called Merlin, which will identify a bird by it's song.

Gasolina

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Monday 7th August 2023
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Have received and email from the British Trust for Ornithology

"This is not one of our rings; all wild birds carry in addition to the colour ring a split metal ring with a postal address as well as a serial number. This is an escaped cage or aviary bird. Unfortunately, there is no central register of these rings, so this bird is probably untraceable. You could contact local vets or the RSPCA to enquire as to whether anyone has reported it missing."

The ring appears to have been issued by the British Bird Council so I have now emailed them with the details.

sunbeam alpine

7,046 posts

194 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Slow.Patrol said:
There is a really good app called Merlin, which will identify a bird by it's song.
Comes back as Debbie Harry...

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LimmerickLad

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21 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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My money is on a canary