Is this a Bee nest?

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Gretchen

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19,177 posts

222 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Dispute whether this is Bee or Wasp nest. I’m saying Bees. If so will I have discovered a secret Honey stash or should I run?




HTP99

23,132 posts

146 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Look like bees to me.

basherX

2,573 posts

167 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Looks like a bee swarm to me. We’ve had those on our chimney.

Mabbs9

1,201 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Bees

Gretchen

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222 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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I thought so. The three men I’ve with are panicking rofl We’ve moored up on a quiet spot and they want to move on. I’m excited by the discover. Will there be Honey at any point? Or is my excitement going to be quashed.

otolith

58,340 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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There will be honey when they find somewhere to settle down and build a hive - that’s a queen and her entourage en route to a new home.

otolith

58,340 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Should you decide to capture it and put it into a hive of your own, here’s how not to do it laugh

https://youtube.com/shorts/vsnG3efjijw?feature=sha...

indigochim

1,626 posts

136 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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We had a swarm rock up in the garden while they where airborne I thought they where wasps but apparently wasps don't swarm.

Once they'd settled in a bush it was the size of a whole Donna kebab. A local beekeeper came to collect them. He said sometimes they settle just for a rest and that they weren't necessarily looking at setting up home in the garden. Although he identified a crack in a tree that turned out to be hollow which he thought they could have called home. Really interesting stuff.

Wiccan of Darkness

1,866 posts

89 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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It's definitely a swarm of bees, but a very small one, they'll go home shortly.

Somewhere deep in that hymenopteran orgy, the queen is indulging in some wanton carnality. As such, they'll go back to the hive once the deed is done. A regular swarm is much larger, this is just a mating swarm.

Gretchen

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222 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
It's definitely a swarm of bees, but a very small one, they'll go home shortly.

Somewhere deep in that hymenopteran orgy, the queen is indulging in some wanton carnality. As such, they'll go back to the hive once the deed is done. A regular swarm is much larger, this is just a mating swarm.
Thank you for this information! That’s interesting. Because it’s pretty much in the middle of nowhere. We are moored up on some wild fields. Lots of trees with LOTS of hollows. We come down here regularly so will keep my eyes peeled.

hidetheelephants

27,302 posts

199 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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This guy knows bees.

Roofless Toothless

6,006 posts

138 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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I'd hate to be the one at the top that all the other bees are hanging on to.

dickymint

25,523 posts

264 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Gretchen said:
Wiccan of Darkness said:
It's definitely a swarm of bees, but a very small one, they'll go home shortly.

Somewhere deep in that hymenopteran orgy, the queen is indulging in some wanton carnality. As such, they'll go back to the hive once the deed is done. A regular swarm is much larger, this is just a mating swarm.
Thank you for this information! That’s interesting. Because it’s pretty much in the middle of nowhere. We are moored up on some wild fields. Lots of trees with LOTS of hollows. We come down here regularly so will keep my eyes peeled.
Interesting but woefully wrong wink That's definitely a honey bee swarm or possibly a secondary swarm called "a cast". If a prime swarm the already mated Queen will be in there and as she is already mated there wont be any nooky going on - they only mate once and contain enough sperm to last 3/6 years of egg laying.

A secondary swarm will have a virgin queen/s in there again not having nooky as they mate on 'the wing'.

Also it's highly unlikely for them to return to their old hive. Mating flights are totally different.

Gretchen

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222 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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But will there be wild honey?!? And where/when?

smile


dickymint

25,523 posts

264 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Gretchen said:
But will there be wild honey?!? And where/when?

smile
They would be gone from there into some hollow in a tree or a building. When they swarm they totally gorge themselves on the stores in the hive, enough to to keep themselves and the queen warm and fed. They will send out scout bees to decide on their permanent home. Also prior to swarming they put the queen on a diet so she can actually fly.

Here's my first swarm I had to deal with a couple of years ago in my garden.............



They first settled high up in a fir tree but I had a cunning plan..........



Plan didn't work out but I still got lucky............






moorx

3,756 posts

120 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Apparently there has been an increase in swarms:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-war...

dickymint

25,523 posts

264 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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moorx said:
Apparently there has been an increase in swarms:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-war...
Yes I saw that on the news earlier - however that report is just plain wrong in a few important areas - I'll try to explain a few later when I've got time......

Dragster

41 posts

20 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Had some guests come to visit yesterday at 14.00...........stayed overnight in this pear tree and left today at 16.00. Ripon, North Yorkshire.