New puppy - very small umbilical hernia - options?

New puppy - very small umbilical hernia - options?

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wax lyrical

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931 posts

248 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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We are due to collect our new puppy from the breeder in a few days. She's a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

After a routine VET check-up today the breeder told us that she has a very small umbilical hernia. Apparently it's quite common and not a problem - and may need to be closed up in the future.

Does anyone know how much this procedure would cost? Are we justified in requesting a discount on the agreed purchase price to cover the cost of the operation?

All advice and input welcome.

goldar

550 posts

29 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Have you tried beating it?

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

931 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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Can you not read? I haven't collected her from the breeder yet. Might try that later if all else fails.

Thanks for the advice! smile


goldar said:
Have you tried beating it?

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

26 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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Common in all Spaniels. Should disappear by itself within six months..

Just keep an eye on it. Sounds much more serious than it is.

hotchy

4,592 posts

133 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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As long as you don't plan in breading her, it's fine. My dad's dog had a small one. It's still there, and he's now 14.

yellowtang

1,779 posts

145 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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After I’d placed a deposit on a Dalmatian puppy the breeder contacted me to say that unfortunately some of the litter had failed their hearing tests and mine was one of them (deaf in one ear). The breeder offered my deposit back and made it clear that he wouldn’t sanction breeding from any of the litter.

Being partially deaf in one ear myself, I obviously still had the puppy!

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

931 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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Thanks Guys. Apparently it's a very small hernia and likely to close up on its own in a few months, but if it doesn't the procedure to close it is very easy (and cheap). smile

Clio200pat

149 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Our male Bavarian Mountain Hound had an umbilical hernia that was picked up when he was going to be neutered as a 9 month old puppy.

From memory (he's seven now) this didn't cost much more than neutering, as they added the cost on from being under from that. We were also told that if left it could lead to possible ruptured intestines which is why we had it done. So perhaps speak to a couple of vets and see what they say.


jmsgld

1,044 posts

183 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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Umbilical hernias don't tend to close on their own. The only real danger with them is if they are just the right size for a portion of gut to herniate and strangulate - very rare.

We generally close them at time of castrate or spay, will likely add £50-100 to surgery cost. To do it on it's own would require a separate GA and probably cost £300 - 400.

You shouldn't breed from affected litters / sires / dams as is heritable.

wax lyrical

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931 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd January 2023
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Thanks for the advice. We took the puppy to our local Vet for a health check and he said it's so small there's no need to worry and that if necessary it can easily be repaired at the time of spaying. smile

jmsgld said:
Umbilical hernias don't tend to close on their own. The only real danger with them is if they are just the right size for a portion of gut to herniate and strangulate - very rare.

We generally close them at time of castrate or spay, will likely add £50-100 to surgery cost. To do it on it's own would require a separate GA and probably cost £300 - 400.

You shouldn't breed from affected litters / sires / dams as is heritable.

Byker28i

68,061 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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We have the same with Asha, shes 15 months old now and will have it sorted when she's spayed. (small black labrador about 23-24kg) She's just had her second season. It hasn't caused her any issues, nor are the vets worried

Byker28i

68,061 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Update on this.

Asha now has a small lump they want to biopsy so it made sense to get her spayed and her umbilical hernia done at the same time as she'll be under general.

I'm not sure she'll like a plastic collar to stop her licking. Are any of the other alternatives any good - inflatable collars, body suits, just use an old t-shirt?


moorx

3,931 posts

121 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Byker28i said:
Update on this.

Asha now has a small lump they want to biopsy so it made sense to get her spayed and her umbilical hernia done at the same time as she'll be under general.

I'm not sure she'll like a plastic collar to stop her licking. Are any of the other alternatives any good - inflatable collars, body suits, just use an old t-shirt?
Will keep everything crossed. Rosie is in one of those 'suiticals' to stop her getting to her wound. She hasn't shown any interest in it and doesn't seem bothered by the suitical - although she's used to wearing a fleece jumper in the winter.

Byker28i

68,061 posts

224 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Thanks,
Asha is used to wearing one of those toweling robes to dry her off after beach time. I might look into one of those suits. She won't like the cone, Cadbury old old dog hated it and never quite worked out her surroundings with it on so bumped into everything.

The inflatable collars don't look good either...

Byker28i

68,061 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Thought I'd give an update.

Asha had her op early Feb, along with spaying at the same time. She felt fine and was happy to try runnign around the next day, so we had to restrict her to very short but frequent lead walks .

Now approx a month on, she's absolutely fine. Fur is growing back, wound fully healed. The Recovery suit worked really well, a bit fiddly taking her out to the loo but we worked out it was easier to take off when someone was with her, just have it on when she was on her own.

garythesign

2,281 posts

95 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Glad it worked out OK