Night time house training puppy

Night time house training puppy

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ooo000ooo

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2,567 posts

200 months

Thursday 17th November 2022
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Am I creating a future problem?
Wife takes pup out for a walk early evening, usually does a poo and pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
Around 11-11.30 i take pup out for another walk, usually does a poo and a pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
I've an alarm set for 4am to let her out again, she now is doing both within 10 minutes then back to bed.
Plan was to extend this later and later over the space of a few weeks until she can hold out all night.
Seem to be struggling to get past 4am mark, any later than that and there's a little smelly present waiting for me.
We have puppy pads down but very rarely do they get used, preferring the soft feel of carpet when squeezing one out.
She's approx 13 weeks old, we've had her for 4.
I fear i've created a monster that has now dialled in to 4am poo breaks.
We did try a cage for a few nights but she really hates that and spends all night trying to chew her way out,

sc0tt

18,115 posts

207 months

Thursday 17th November 2022
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It won’t help but mines now 2 and a bit and is still stuck to the 530am poo.

Set your phone alarm and move it 5 minutes each night or whatever time interval the pup can deal with. It will get easier.

I spent many a night playing xbox at 330am because the little guy needed the toilet. Stick with it.

The older they get the longer they will hold out.

mikeyb1987

2,358 posts

160 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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ooo000ooo said:
Am I creating a future problem?
Wife takes pup out for a walk early evening, usually does a poo and pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
Around 11-11.30 i take pup out for another walk, usually does a poo and a pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
I've an alarm set for 4am to let her out again, she now is doing both within 10 minutes then back to bed.
Plan was to extend this later and later over the space of a few weeks until she can hold out all night.
Seem to be struggling to get past 4am mark, any later than that and there's a little smelly present waiting for me.
We have puppy pads down but very rarely do they get used, preferring the soft feel of carpet when squeezing one out.
She's approx 13 weeks old, we've had her for 4.
I fear i've created a monster that has now dialled in to 4am poo breaks.
We did try a cage for a few nights but she really hates that and spends all night trying to chew her way out,
I've used this method for both of my dogs (Lab and Springer). My thought process was that if you can positively reinforce them to toilet outside rather than inside, they'll quickly learn where to do it. The natural constraint is them not being able to hold it long enough, so I was getting up in the middle of the night to let them out, as you are. I found after a couple of weeks of doing this, they were pretty much house trained. I would expect that she would soon be able to last the full night, but every dog is different, so stick at it for a while longer.

I avoided puppy pads, my reasoning is that it's conditioning them to go inside. YMMV.

Edited by mikeyb1987 on Friday 18th November 08:34

Marniet

258 posts

162 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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I honestly think your doing everything right . I’d lift up the pads. The pups still young so I think it’s just going to take it a little more time .

LotusMartin

1,116 posts

158 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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crate overnight. We’ve found crating puppies to be hugely beneficial. Helps them generally settle as well as house training. We’ve done this with 3 of our 4 springers in the last 2 years. Definitely wouldn’t do it any other way now.


ooo000ooo

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2,567 posts

200 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Cheers, glad to hear i'm not doing anything daft.

I don't think caging is an option, when we tried it, it was like putting a tiger in a cage, slapping it's arse then holding a blood covered baby just out of reach smile

Mogsmex

469 posts

241 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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LotusMartin said:
crate overnight. We’ve found crating puppies to be hugely beneficial. Helps them generally settle as well as house training. We’ve done this with 3 of our 4 springers in the last 2 years. Definitely wouldn’t do it any other way now.
yup smile

Shelby wouldnt stop crying first week or so (3 years ago) when we crate trained her, shes now perfect and uses her crate as her bed going in there during the day if she fancys a nap

at night she goes out then I say bed and in she goes

get a copy of easy peasy puppy squeezee (seriously) worth its weight in gold

Challo

10,681 posts

161 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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ooo000ooo said:
Am I creating a future problem?
Wife takes pup out for a walk early evening, usually does a poo and pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
Around 11-11.30 i take pup out for another walk, usually does a poo and a pee, if not she gets put in the back garden for a while until she has done.
I've an alarm set for 4am to let her out again, she now is doing both within 10 minutes then back to bed.
Plan was to extend this later and later over the space of a few weeks until she can hold out all night.
Seem to be struggling to get past 4am mark, any later than that and there's a little smelly present waiting for me.
We have puppy pads down but very rarely do they get used, preferring the soft feel of carpet when squeezing one out.
She's approx 13 weeks old, we've had her for 4.
I fear i've created a monster that has now dialled in to 4am poo breaks.
We did try a cage for a few nights but she really hates that and spends all night trying to chew her way out,
Can I ask what time you feed her? We have two dogs from puppies and had the occasional accident with wee but never had them pooing in the house. Seems odd why they would have a poor on the early evening walk and then another poo that late at night as well.

We create trained both from Puppies, and did the night wee's for a few weeks but slowly increased the times and eventually got through the night with no issues.

BoRED S2upid

20,174 posts

246 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Why is it on a carpet all night? Hard floor all the way then it’s easy to mop up. Ours luckily wakes us up and asks to go out but is not a fan of our crap weather so if he hears any rain will hold it ( he’s Greek)

ooo000ooo

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2,567 posts

200 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Challo said:
Can I ask what time you feed her? We have two dogs from puppies and had the occasional accident with wee but never had them pooing in the house. Seems odd why they would have a poor on the early evening walk and then another poo that late at night as well.

We create trained both from Puppies, and did the night wee's for a few weeks but slowly increased the times and eventually got through the night with no issues.
She gets fed about 6:30 - 7 am when the wife gets up, next feed is generally around 11:30 - 12:00. She is an Olympic standard pooing machine. Might be normal for a sight hound as our last whippet would poo a couple of times during the day and still squeeze out 2 decent ones in a 30 minute walk at night.

ooo000ooo

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2,567 posts

200 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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BoRED S2upid said:
Why is it on a carpet all night? Hard floor all the way then it’s easy to mop up. Ours luckily wakes us up and asks to go out but is not a fan of our crap weather so if he hears any rain will hold it ( he’s Greek)
Only hard floors in the house are the hall which is too cold in my opinion or the kitchen which has just been renovated with new kitchen and flooring so no way we’re risking that getting chewed. The carpet in the room she’s in is due to be replaced after Xmas when, hopefully she’s got the hang of it and will likely be hard flooring for the inevitable occasional accident.