Do most people isolate their dogs from other dogs...?
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Bit of a vent but it's pissing me off.
Don't know what the deal is with these people but the explosion in Whippets, Poodle crosses and Spaniels since the first lockdown is insane and practically every house in my estate has a dog that is one of these. Do they just not let their dogs play?
My dog has been socialised since he was able to, he's a lurcher (Mother greyhound, dad mixed greyhound) so his play is pretty much "tag". Chase, knock over, play bite, run away, repeat. Some times they do it to hard, it's the way it is.
Just had someone at my local field smash my dog in the face with his elbow because his dog came over to mine and they both started chasing each other, his dog let off a little welp and he comes running in to shield his dog and in the process elbows my dog on purpose.
Like wtf, have these people never seen dogs play????. Poor dog was having an absolute ball and it got shut down because the owner thinks they are made of glass.
EDIT: As pointed out by another user I missed a crucial piece of information.
I had leashed my dog prior to all of this as I had seen them enter the field from a distance. I was in the process of doing stops (throwing ball and teaching my dog to stop when he starts chasing) so didn't want them interfering, but his dog ran up to mine first and I asked if they could play, it was at that point my dog was unleashed.
Don't know what the deal is with these people but the explosion in Whippets, Poodle crosses and Spaniels since the first lockdown is insane and practically every house in my estate has a dog that is one of these. Do they just not let their dogs play?
My dog has been socialised since he was able to, he's a lurcher (Mother greyhound, dad mixed greyhound) so his play is pretty much "tag". Chase, knock over, play bite, run away, repeat. Some times they do it to hard, it's the way it is.
Just had someone at my local field smash my dog in the face with his elbow because his dog came over to mine and they both started chasing each other, his dog let off a little welp and he comes running in to shield his dog and in the process elbows my dog on purpose.
Like wtf, have these people never seen dogs play????. Poor dog was having an absolute ball and it got shut down because the owner thinks they are made of glass.
EDIT: As pointed out by another user I missed a crucial piece of information.
I had leashed my dog prior to all of this as I had seen them enter the field from a distance. I was in the process of doing stops (throwing ball and teaching my dog to stop when he starts chasing) so didn't want them interfering, but his dog ran up to mine first and I asked if they could play, it was at that point my dog was unleashed.
Edited by TheLoraxxZeus on Monday 26th September 15:21
I always ask before letting my dog engage with another one, if the owners are happy, they can growl, nip, pull ears to their hearts content, that's exactly what dogs do as you say!!
If she runs off (which she does sometimes) I run after her and would be the one grabbing hold before anyone else does.
She rarely meets another dog completely without me checking first.
I also keep her away from other dogs when walking.
But yes, people are soft and so are their dogs, best to not get involved!
If she runs off (which she does sometimes) I run after her and would be the one grabbing hold before anyone else does.
She rarely meets another dog completely without me checking first.
I also keep her away from other dogs when walking.
But yes, people are soft and so are their dogs, best to not get involved!
I think it depends on the dog and how you react. My rescue dog wasn’t socialised when young and has only started seeing other dogs in the last few months. He acts like a puppy but is probably too big for other dogs to take it that way, so the other dog responds in fear.
People who let their dogs off the lead and they then run up to mine are warned that he’s exuberant but their dog might get a fright.
Doesn’t stop people saying ‘it’s ok, they’re friendly’ and then having to run over to stop their pooch getting a damn good humping ??.
I think if you want to get your dog comfortable and social it’s best to do it as early as possible and if not, train, train and keep training.
They feed off your behaviour so also always important to be calm and in control, especially if you encounter someone (dog owner) who panics
People who let their dogs off the lead and they then run up to mine are warned that he’s exuberant but their dog might get a fright.
Doesn’t stop people saying ‘it’s ok, they’re friendly’ and then having to run over to stop their pooch getting a damn good humping ??.
I think if you want to get your dog comfortable and social it’s best to do it as early as possible and if not, train, train and keep training.
They feed off your behaviour so also always important to be calm and in control, especially if you encounter someone (dog owner) who panics
dundarach said:
I always ask before letting my dog engage with another one, if the owners are happy, they can growl, nip, pull ears to their hearts content, that's exactly what dogs do as you say!!
If she runs off (which she does sometimes) I run after her and would be the one grabbing hold before anyone else does.
She rarely meets another dog completely without me checking first.
I also keep her away from other dogs when walking.
But yes, people are soft and so are their dogs, best to not get involved!
Hm yeah, my dog normally runs over to other dogs if he is off the lead but he stops fairly short of them and lies down to see what they do. If the dog isn't interested he just comes back.If she runs off (which she does sometimes) I run after her and would be the one grabbing hold before anyone else does.
She rarely meets another dog completely without me checking first.
I also keep her away from other dogs when walking.
But yes, people are soft and so are their dogs, best to not get involved!
I also keep my dog away from other dogs when walking, since it's not really the time to be socialising...it's jobbie time.
Worth noting my dog was leashed when the other dog approached, as I seen them coming into the field and I was doing a training regime.
Bisonhead said:
People who let their dogs off the lead and they then run up to mine are warned that he’s exuberant but their dog might get a fright.
Doesn’t stop people saying ‘it’s ok, they’re friendly’ and then having to run over to stop their pooch getting a damn good humping ??.
That's pretty much what happened to a tee, and what usually happens. My dog is not even 2 yet so he is still very much "puppy like" and like you said, some other dogs don't like it (at least not at first until they establish the rules of play).Doesn’t stop people saying ‘it’s ok, they’re friendly’ and then having to run over to stop their pooch getting a damn good humping ??.
My dog was actually leashed when the other dog first came over (was doing training with lots of on/off leashing and ball throwing), so I did ask the owner if they could play, of course they said yes despite me saying that there is a size difference and he will 100% run him over lol.
Not sure how much his dog weighed, Google says whippets weigh 7-20kg and my dog is 2.5-3x the size of the other dog and mine weighs 30kg, so it was defo a small whippet or still a puppy. Regardless, no dog was hurt or going to be hurt so it's hard for me to really care about this persons feelings.
ADP68 said:
I just assume that most people are a*holes now and nothing surprises me anymore.
Safe assumption, I was perfectly happy to re-leash my dog soon as I seen the owner was uncomfortable but the "putting himself between his dog and mine while swinging elbows" really pissed me off. Especially when my dog literally sat for him after taking a blow to the face, my dog was literally waiting for permission to start play again 
.Had a lady a few weeks back that had this tiny tiny little puppy off the lead at the same place, 5-6 month old and it looked like a s
tpoo or something. It came bolting over and my dog just lay there, then the little dog started running back to the owner but mine started chasing when the other dog was half way back. She came bolting over and instantly picked her dog up and batted mine away with the plastic ball thrower she had. I just don't get it.As long as you’re being responsible and communicate then you’re never in the wrong.
There was a guy on our walk yesterday who had a young golden retriever loose who wasn’t socially trained and I had to lift mine up to stop the chaos. Not good for my dogs training and not good for my back having to lift 30kg of wriggling staffyxboxer away!!
There was a guy on our walk yesterday who had a young golden retriever loose who wasn’t socially trained and I had to lift mine up to stop the chaos. Not good for my dogs training and not good for my back having to lift 30kg of wriggling staffyxboxer away!!
There are a couple of parks we no longer go to due to out of control dogs. Our dog is very well socialised, but he is also 12 years old, has a metal plate in his leg and being a Westie, he isn't particularly big either. So I don't particularly appreciate him being jumped on by a group of unruly dogs. The owners just stand and watch while their dogs chase joggers, cyclists and even one old chap on a mobility scooter too. Maybe I'm getting as old and grumpy as my dog, but we just want a nice quiet walk at our own pace, without having badly behaved dogs launch themselves at us.
The number of people who have apologised to me when their dog is playing with Cooper - I just tell them it's fine, they're just playing
Cooper is good off lead. His recall is decent and when I see other dogs I call him back and he stays with me until I've checked. I will normally leash him until I know. He doesn't chase bikes or people when off lead and tends to run circles around me within a 20 yard radius, whilst watching for direction changes (which I throw in to keep him attentive)
He's very hard work on lead though and I thought I had tried most things to address it. I reached the end of my tether (no pun intended) last week and decided to engage a trainer for him. After 1 hour with a professional I now see where I was going wrong and the difference is remarkable (although still with work to do)
See too many people with dogs pulling like trains and not addressing it. Meaning dogs don't get walked enough as it's not fun - we've probably been guilt of it at times for this reason but I'm glad we've addressed it now. We've also cut his feed down alongside increased exercise as he was at the top end of a good weight range (couple of kilos off and he'll be fine)
He's a love with a great personality but a typical spaniel (4 years old now so pre-lockdown). Some people are too daft or too lazy to put in the work unfortunately. We were just uneducated and naive and didn't address things as early as we should have
Cooper is good off lead. His recall is decent and when I see other dogs I call him back and he stays with me until I've checked. I will normally leash him until I know. He doesn't chase bikes or people when off lead and tends to run circles around me within a 20 yard radius, whilst watching for direction changes (which I throw in to keep him attentive)
He's very hard work on lead though and I thought I had tried most things to address it. I reached the end of my tether (no pun intended) last week and decided to engage a trainer for him. After 1 hour with a professional I now see where I was going wrong and the difference is remarkable (although still with work to do)
See too many people with dogs pulling like trains and not addressing it. Meaning dogs don't get walked enough as it's not fun - we've probably been guilt of it at times for this reason but I'm glad we've addressed it now. We've also cut his feed down alongside increased exercise as he was at the top end of a good weight range (couple of kilos off and he'll be fine)
He's a love with a great personality but a typical spaniel (4 years old now so pre-lockdown). Some people are too daft or too lazy to put in the work unfortunately. We were just uneducated and naive and didn't address things as early as we should have
TheLoraxxZeus said:
Bit of a vent but it's pissing me off.
Don't know what the deal is with these people but the explosion in Whippets, Poodle crosses and Spaniels since the first lockdown is insane and practically every house in my estate has a dog that is one of these. Do they just not let their dogs play?
My dog has been socialised since he was able to, he's a lurcher (Mother greyhound, dad mixed greyhound) so his play is pretty much "tag". Chase, knock over, play bite, run away, repeat. Some times they do it to hard, it's the way it is.
Just had someone at my local field smash my dog in the face with his elbow because his dog came over to mine and they both started chasing each other, his dog let off a little welp and he comes running in to shield his dog and in the process elbows my dog on purpose.
Like wtf, have these people never seen dogs play????. Poor dog was having an absolute ball and it got shut down because the owner thinks they are made of glass.
I've had so many people warn me to put my 10 month old whippet on his lead because their dog isn't good around others as if this should somehow be my problem. So frustrating and unnecessary.Don't know what the deal is with these people but the explosion in Whippets, Poodle crosses and Spaniels since the first lockdown is insane and practically every house in my estate has a dog that is one of these. Do they just not let their dogs play?
My dog has been socialised since he was able to, he's a lurcher (Mother greyhound, dad mixed greyhound) so his play is pretty much "tag". Chase, knock over, play bite, run away, repeat. Some times they do it to hard, it's the way it is.
Just had someone at my local field smash my dog in the face with his elbow because his dog came over to mine and they both started chasing each other, his dog let off a little welp and he comes running in to shield his dog and in the process elbows my dog on purpose.
Like wtf, have these people never seen dogs play????. Poor dog was having an absolute ball and it got shut down because the owner thinks they are made of glass.
I have the opposite problem with my Terriers Barry and Daphne, they aren't keen on other dogs, not aggressive or anything just antisocial so will generally avoid or ignore other dogs, occasionally they may have a sniff if the other dog is fairly chilled like they are but that is it.
The issue we have is over exuberant dogs bothering them, they are tolerant to a degree and will go out of their way to avoid an excitable dog but when the other dog doesn't get the message or their owner is nowhere to be seen to manage their dog, they can get quite cross with them, last year I had to fish a Boxer out of the river as it just wasn't getting the message, it ended up in the water when trying to avoid Barry getting cross with it, bloody thing was an absolute PITA, owner was nowhere to be seen!
The issue we have is over exuberant dogs bothering them, they are tolerant to a degree and will go out of their way to avoid an excitable dog but when the other dog doesn't get the message or their owner is nowhere to be seen to manage their dog, they can get quite cross with them, last year I had to fish a Boxer out of the river as it just wasn't getting the message, it ended up in the water when trying to avoid Barry getting cross with it, bloody thing was an absolute PITA, owner was nowhere to be seen!
My Border Terrier has been attacked (bitten) by other dogs five times in his eight years. Since the last attack he is very wary of other dogs, and so is my wife. I always keep him on a lead and away from other dogs. When approached by other dogs he is generally friendly, wagging his tail but become nervous after a minute and sometimes growls. Often I'm walking him with my wife and three year old daughter.
I find it really annoying when owners of dogs off lead don't call their dog back, usually dogs which are much larger than him, "oh he's fine" well I'm not fine with it, we don't want to "play" and things are obviously starting to get a bit tense. I pick up my dog and try to walk away to be followed by the other dog now jumping on me, I just want to walk on and get on with my day. Sometimes owners still don't react and do anything which I find unacceptable.
We have changed our habits and avoid certain parks which is a bit of a shame.
Please be respectful, call your dog back, put it on a lead for 2 minutes so we can walk past and get on with our day. I'm sure there will be many other dogs your dog can play with and if you're that upset get a second dog and leave us alone!
I find it really annoying when owners of dogs off lead don't call their dog back, usually dogs which are much larger than him, "oh he's fine" well I'm not fine with it, we don't want to "play" and things are obviously starting to get a bit tense. I pick up my dog and try to walk away to be followed by the other dog now jumping on me, I just want to walk on and get on with my day. Sometimes owners still don't react and do anything which I find unacceptable.
We have changed our habits and avoid certain parks which is a bit of a shame.
Please be respectful, call your dog back, put it on a lead for 2 minutes so we can walk past and get on with our day. I'm sure there will be many other dogs your dog can play with and if you're that upset get a second dog and leave us alone!
GR86 said:
Please be respectful, call your dog back, put it on a lead for 2 minutes so we can walk past and get on with our day. I'm sure there will be many other dogs your dog can play with and if you're that upset get a second dog and leave us alone!
Uh, OK? Owners dog came up to mine, which was leashed initially, owners dog wasn't responding to recall. I asked if they could play, owner agreed so I unleashed but owner didn't like the fact they were barking and chasing each other. So they intervened which resulted in them throwing elbows at my dog.I don't think your the "other owner" in this situation, since you most likely would have not said yes, nor would your dog run over? Not sure.
wiggy001 said:
I've had so many people warn me to put my 10 month old whippet on his lead because their dog isn't good around others as if this should somehow be my problem. So frustrating and unnecessary.
My whippet probably falls under the OPs categorisation (it's a lockdown acquisition and we have to work very hard at recall, and often will only allow him off lead when there are no dogs around), but I appreciate the point from the poster above too.There's always a lairy cocker poo or spaniel who comes bounding over when they fancy a run around, their owner often says 'is it ok for them to play?' I often warn them that my whippet will be a bit fast and they might not like it.
Which quite often happens, the spaniel will be surprised at the whippet's speed and yelp in surprise, owners get a bit upset at this, it all gets a bit unnecessary.
I tend not to walk the dogs in the nearest park where all the mixed cocker poos hang out loose, and head off to the heath-like area near us instead and hopefully some other whippet or lurcher owners will be walking theirs and we let them all off for a massive run around (well for 10 minutes until they are completely worn out). Its a great sight to see them wheeling around at full speed together.
I try to keep mine on a lead as much as possible really as they don't mix well with smaller dogs.
TheLoraxxZeus said:
GR86 said:
Please be respectful, call your dog back, put it on a lead for 2 minutes so we can walk past and get on with our day. I'm sure there will be many other dogs your dog can play with and if you're that upset get a second dog and leave us alone!
Uh, OK? Owners dog came up to mine, which was leashed initially, owners dog wasn't responding to recall. I asked if they could play, owner agreed so I unleashed but owner didn't like the fact they were barking and chasing each other. So they intervened which resulted in them throwing elbows at my dog.I don't think your the "other owner" in this situation, since you most likely would have not said yes, nor would your dog run over? Not sure.
prand said:
Which quite often happens, the spaniel will be surprised at the whippet's speed and yelp in surprise, owners get a bit upset at this, it all gets a bit unnecessary.
Funny you say that because this owner said just that. My dog was chasing the whippet, barking but when he caught up he basically pushed it over and it welped, then it chased him, back and forth. My dog however usually slows down and looks behind him as he is used to playing with a neighbours dog which is the same size but ridiculously slow.He said "When other dogs can't catch him they bite him in frustration" which I was confused about as that is not what happened lol, they both caught each other fine and that biting is just what dogs do. The whippet may have it's weight advantage but my dog has a greyhound stride length, I've never seen anything outrun him and I sure as hell have never seen a dog bite him out of frustration because he is too fast.
prand said:
I tend not to walk the dogs in the nearest park where all the mixed cocker poos hang out loose, and head off to the heath-like area near us instead and hopefully some other whippet or lurcher owners will be walking theirs and we let them all off for a massive run around (well for 10 minutes until they are completely worn out). Its a great sight to see them wheeling around at full speed together.
I try to keep mine on a lead as much as possible really as they don't mix well with smaller dogs.
Yeah good shout. I agree they defo need a bigger or equal sized dog. I believe sighthounds tend to lean/bash into other animals/people to "size them up for play", my dog was particularly bad for this at 6 months as he would t-bone other dogs at 30mph but it only took a couple times before he got told off big time (by a big ass rottie none the less) and he has never done it since.I try to keep mine on a lead as much as possible really as they don't mix well with smaller dogs.
Some of these dogs are like £3000 for some buzzard reason so people are probably thinking they need protecting.
Like other posters of dogs are off the lead it’s playtime if they aren’t then I will grab hold of him. I will also grab hold of him if he’s harassing a girl dog as he’s getting a bit frisky his balls are on a timer I’m afraid.
What did you say to the owner OP? I’d have had words.
Like other posters of dogs are off the lead it’s playtime if they aren’t then I will grab hold of him. I will also grab hold of him if he’s harassing a girl dog as he’s getting a bit frisky his balls are on a timer I’m afraid.
What did you say to the owner OP? I’d have had words.
BoRED S2upid said:
What did you say to the owner OP? I’d have had words.
Nah not worth it, if I started having issues with him my dog is going to have issues with him. I just leashed him and instantly left.My dog already has issues trusting strangers that approach him, last thing I needed is the owner raising his voice as it will just further cement in his head that "my dog was bad" to his dog.
I even left behind a £20 rubber ball that I am literally just going to go out and get so thanks for the reminder lol.
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