Raw dog food poses major international public health risk

[FourWheelDrift]

multidrug-resistant bacteria was found in dog food - https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/07/12/raw-dog-...

[Unknown_User]

That report seems a bit ruff, I think they're barking up the wrong tree.

[ChocolateFrog]

It's still vastly better for the dog than feeding them the cardboard they sell at the pet shop or supermarket.

The benefits hugely outweigh the potential risk.

Which reminds me, I need to do a dog food run.

[FourWheelDrift]

ChocolateFrog said:

It's still vastly better for the dog than feeding them the cardboard they sell at the pet shop or supermarket.

The benefits hugely outweigh the potential risk.

It's not the dogs who are at risk but the owners, close contact & handling the food etc..

[Jasandjules]

Cui Bono. I wonder, just wonder, whether or not a dog food company sponsored it.....


I assume that in addition supermarkets will no longer be able to sell raw meat.............. Danger, danger....

[ChocolateFrog]

FourWheelDrift said:

ChocolateFrog said:

It's still vastly better for the dog than feeding them the cardboard they sell at the pet shop or supermarket.

The benefits hugely outweigh the potential risk.

It's not the dogs who are at risk but the owners, close contact & handling the food etc..

I've handled raw chicken dog food twice every day (give or take) for years as have my parents with their dogs and my sister with hers.

If there's a risk, it's obviously tiny.

[otolith]

Jasandjules said:

Cui Bono. I wonder, just wonder, whether or not a dog food company sponsored it.....

Just for clarity, are you alleging that the dog food company contaminated the samples, or that Liliana Finisterra, Bárbara Duarte, Luísa Peixe, Carla Novais and Ana R.Freitas are frauds and liars?

[durbster]

I'm not at all surprised by this.

I looked into raw dog food when we got our first dog and I was convinced by the arguments for it. At first.

The more I looked into it, the more alarms started going off as it was using the same selling techniques as the natural food industry, which is pseudo-science at best and total bks at worst.

Despite what the "wellness" industry would like us to believe, the natural world is extremely hostile to us. I don't see any reason why that'd be different for dogs.

[Tomo1971]

I've read a couple of other reactions to this from folk far more intelligent than me and they seem to be saying the research is flawed and biased. No control study / info and lots of gaps....

[FourWheelDrift]

I think it comes down to standards, food for humans (that you might give to dogs) is of a regulated high standard. Frozen/raw food made specifically for dogs isn't regulated and of lower quality. And as usual those in the industry who are moaning that it's flawed are those involved in the lower quality stuff and don't want to lose their big profit margins.

[dirkgently]

I believe that the raw dog food industry is more regulated than the food for human consumption.

[FourWheelDrift]

dirkgently said:

I believe that the raw dog food industry is more regulated than the food for human consumption.

Ah yes, it appears to be the other way around, people feeding dogs raw meat made for human consumption could be the issue, since we always cook our food we kill off the problems - https://veterinary-practice.com/article/how-is-raw...

"Interestingly, the zero tolerance policy for Salmonella in commercial raw pet food is stricter than the legislation for raw materials intended for human consumption, which does allow Salmonella to be present in raw meat (providing it is not Salmonella typhimurium or enteritidis), as the intention is that this meat will ultimately be cooked, thus killing the bacteria."

[Jasandjules]

otolith said:

Jasandjules said:

Cui Bono. I wonder, just wonder, whether or not a dog food company sponsored it.....

Just for clarity, are you alleging that the dog food company contaminated the samples, or that Liliana Finisterra, Bárbara Duarte, Luísa Peixe, Carla Novais and Ana R.Freitas are frauds and liars?

Which dog food company do you work for?

I think you know full well, assuming you have an IQ greater than your shoe size, what the implication is from my post. Cui Bono is not exactly ambiguous.

[rigga]

dirkgently said:

I believe that the raw dog food industry is more regulated than the food for human consumption.

This is so apparently, I've a mate who's a meat wholesaler, butcher's it too at his plant, when covid struck, and hospitality took a hammering, his work basically dried up, I suggested to him trying to market dog food, and he did say it wasn't worth the effort due to all the regulations over and above he already had to adhere to.

Resorted to home delivering meat and its worked out better, as he actually gets paid on delivery, instead of waiting for restaurants and the like to settle their bills.

[anonymous-user]

i raised the issue with raw dog food, yet the raw dog food devotes come across very special, like it is a cult. Not a fan of fads, if you want to give them unprocessed foods give them your scraps.

[Batleyred]

dirkgently said:

I believe that the raw dog food industry is more regulated than the food for human consumption.

As a farmer and know plenty of farmers, who sell raw also, what you wrote is correct. I looked into selling raw but decided against it due to that reason.

Mind boggling literally with the paper work.

[Jasandjules]

The Spruce Goose said:

i raised the issue with raw dog food, yet the raw dog food devotes come across very special, like it is a cult. Not a fan of fads, if you want to give them unprocessed foods give them your scraps.

When you say fad, you mean what dogs ate for 30,000 years before man produced kibble?

[Howitzer]

I’m also thinking if we had to give them our scraps then I better start inviting more people around for dinner as they wouldn’t get a days worth of food with a months worth of scraps.

Dave!

[jmsgld]

There is a growing body of knowledge to support the conclusions of the mentioned paper.

There was a good review in JSAP, which despite being a couple of years old now still covers all the points nicely.

As with everything in life, there are pros and cons to feeding raw, it's all about making an informed decision.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332678236...

Edited by jmsgld on Sunday 18th July 12:03

[durbster]

jmsgld said:

There is a growing body of knowledge to support the conclusions of the mentioned paper.

Yup, and despite numerous studies on it, there is no evidence that feeding your dog raw food is "better" for them so it's adding risk with little reward.