The price of a puppy

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Skyedriver

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18,559 posts

288 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Too early after the loss of our Springer, Son has exams coming up and should be concentrating on them, we've still got the Skye Terrier who's a bit funny with other dogs etc etc but he's started searching the web for another dog.

Gobsmacked at the prices folk are asking now. Seems £2500 is about the going rate for a Springer or Cocker.
12 years ago our recently deceased Springer was IIRC about £300, the Skye, 5 years ago was £600.
I've heard this is due to Lockdown amongst other things, will things calm down when everything gets back to normal or am I just out of touch?

I'm determined to delay for the reasons above but just thought I'd pop the question on here for discussion. I've suggested a rescue dog but think the Skye will take to a young pup more easily than an older dog which may come with some emotional baggage.

Blackpuddin

17,094 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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This has been a problem for a while now. Even crossbreeds like cockerpoos are that sort of money now. Horse prices have gone similarly ballistic.

sociopath

3,433 posts

72 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Get a rescue, there are thousands looking for homes, and after lockdown is over there'll be thousands more, as all these new owners decide they can't be bothered with a dog.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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This ^^^^^

Skyedriver

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18,559 posts

288 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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As original post, we're not sure how the Skye will take to a fully grown dog coming into the house, she's extremely territorial at times. She's good with very young pups however. Anyone who knows a Skye will understand, she's a true terrier happy to pick a fight with anything bigger than her!
We're putting the word out with the local dog groomer who will keep us posted on any coming up in the area. We're in Scotland and travel is still restricted up here so viewing is difficult at the moment anyway.
Appreciate there's a lot involved with the rearing of a litter, parent health, chipping, registration, inoculations etc

Bikesalot

1,840 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Pricing is falling quite fast again i've noticed....seems demand has dropped as people realise a dog is not for them. Means an increase in rehoming cases too.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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I have seen puppy prices range from £2500-4000 over the past few months or so. Mental.

As others have said, the really sad thing is that this has almost purely been driven by so many bored people wanting a puppy because they are stuck at home in lockdown.

Prices will fall again, but it makes me sad to think that many of these ‘boredom puppies’ will be cast aside as people realise they can go to on holiday again, or go to the pub, the shops, etc. The puppy will become an inconvenience rather than a new toy.

sherman

13,726 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Im on the look out for a beagle or a westie pup. I just refuse to pay £2k+ for one out of principal.

I would consider a rescue if you could actually see what they have just now. All the local homing centres put up 1 or 2 pics of 1 or 2 dogs on the website at a time. If it was more like autotrader and people could actually see whats there before driving over to see whats there it would be better.

Challo

10,685 posts

161 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Just hold out for the moment. Lots of overpriced dogs due to demand from lockdowns, and as people go back to work demand will decrease and the prices as well.

Lot of rescues centres have high demand, but you should be able to easily home a rescue from overseas.

I understand your concern about introducing an older dog into the home vs a puppy. Just take your time, and the right dog will come up for you.

MDMA .

9,159 posts

107 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Too early after the loss of our Springer, Son has exams coming up and should be concentrating on them, we've still got the Skye Terrier who's a bit funny with other dogs etc etc but he's started searching the web for another dog.

Gobsmacked at the prices folk are asking now. Seems £2500 is about the going rate for a Springer or Cocker.
12 years ago our recently deceased Springer was IIRC about £300, the Skye, 5 years ago was £600.
I've heard this is due to Lockdown amongst other things, will things calm down when everything gets back to normal or am I just out of touch?

I'm determined to delay for the reasons above but just thought I'd pop the question on here for discussion. I've suggested a rescue dog but think the Skye will take to a young pup more easily than an older dog which may come with some emotional baggage.
Our cleaner at work has just had a litter of Springers. She's a bit reluctant to advertise them at the moment as they seem very popular to the type who live in caravans and seem to go missing when they know your address! She'll only be letting them go to people she knows.

Skyedriver

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18,559 posts

288 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Local news last night, 9 week old American bulldog stolen at knife point from the front door of the owner.
That's the value of pups at the moment.
Dreadful.

Marniet

258 posts

162 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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I’m in glasgow so saw that last night too. He’s now been found . Dumped by the road side in Shettleson

billbring

223 posts

189 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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We found the only way to get a rescue dog during lockdown was to look at the charities bringing them from abroad. They all advertise on Facebook and are much more active there then on their own websites.

We ended up getting one from Romania and the adoption fee was £475, although we chose to double that as a donation since they were so good throughout the whole process. I would definitely recommend them.

What's more, the majority of dogs they have are puppies, or pregnant mums where the pups are born in the shelter so you don't get any of the issues with past abuse. The only thing to note is that they have to be 12 weeks before they can travel as all their vaccines need to be complete, so a little older than a pup you would get from a breeder.

We were initially looking for an adult dog but ended up with this 12 week old girl, and couldn't be more pleased, she is a lovely natured dog and is training exceptionally well. Gratuitous photo...




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Skyedriver

Original Poster:

18,559 posts

288 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Too early after the loss of our Springer, Son has exams coming up and should be concentrating on them, we've still got the Skye Terrier who's a bit funny with other dogs etc etc but he's started searching the web for another dog.
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Despite my protestations, about too early, rebound from last dog, school, cost etc, it would seem we are getting a wee pup in about 4 or 5 weeks (after school assessments). Cockerpoo (I know, I know but our other dog seems to get on well with that "breed" (crossbreed). I don't appear to have much say in the matter, it's wife and son against me. I know my place, it's in 5th behind her, him and the two dogs.

loskie

5,579 posts

126 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Billbring: They CANNOT legally travel till 15 weeks old. Vaccine is licenced for dogs 12 weeks old plus THEN it needs 21 days for the vaccine to activate hence 15 weeks.

Be aware many of these Romanian Dogs are vaccinated well before the 12 week age. It's pretty much impossible to police. Plus many that think they are rescuing dogs are actually buying stolen dogs and supporting organised crime. Many of the so called Romanian dogs coming from the former Russian states, puppy farms operate out there too.

They are not necessarily charities but businesses.

Sway

28,533 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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To give you an idea of the insanity of the last year or so - my other half's scrote of a cousin cleared over £200k last year...

He's a registered breeder, with top ratings from his local authority, but it's just nonsense that this is the sort of profit levels arising from the recent demand. He's not a breeder I'd get a dog from either.

StevieBee

13,372 posts

261 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Is there not the argument that a higher price weedles out those who are serious about dog ownership from those who are less so?

£2.5k is not really an impulse purchase price so committing to this level requires some proper consideration, thought, research and preparation.

I guess that it denies choice to those who are genuinely committed to dog ownership but rescue dogs and the various charities do a very good job in fulfilling demand at this level.

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this - just an alternative angle to discuss.

sherman

13,726 posts

221 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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StevieBee said:
Is there not the argument that a higher price weedles out those who are serious about dog ownership from those who are less so?

£2.5k is not really an impulse purchase price so committing to this level requires some proper consideration, thought, research and preparation.

I guess that it denies choice to those who are genuinely committed to dog ownership but rescue dogs and the various charities do a very good job in fulfilling demand at this level.

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this - just an alternative angle to discuss.
Its just profiteering becsuse of excess demand. Its not about animal welfare its purely supply and demand.

super7

2,002 posts

214 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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sherman said:
StevieBee said:
Is there not the argument that a higher price weedles out those who are serious about dog ownership from those who are less so?

£2.5k is not really an impulse purchase price so committing to this level requires some proper consideration, thought, research and preparation.

I guess that it denies choice to those who are genuinely committed to dog ownership but rescue dogs and the various charities do a very good job in fulfilling demand at this level.

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this - just an alternative angle to discuss.
Its just profiteering becsuse of excess demand. Its not about animal welfare its purely supply and demand.
It's called a market, and quite simply the dogs are the product. Doesn't mean the puppies are not going to decent homes.

If everyone else is selling a puppy for £3.5k, and people are prepared to pay that, you'd be stupid to sell them for £2k.

I'm stupid!!

Quite interestingly as well, one of my friends works for a water company, he was talking about the return to office working. The employee's were pushing back because they needed dog daycare. Their HR dept are actually looking at ways to solve the problem eek

Sway

28,533 posts

200 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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super7 said:
sherman said:
StevieBee said:
Is there not the argument that a higher price weedles out those who are serious about dog ownership from those who are less so?

£2.5k is not really an impulse purchase price so committing to this level requires some proper consideration, thought, research and preparation.

I guess that it denies choice to those who are genuinely committed to dog ownership but rescue dogs and the various charities do a very good job in fulfilling demand at this level.

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this - just an alternative angle to discuss.
Its just profiteering becsuse of excess demand. Its not about animal welfare its purely supply and demand.
It's called a market, and quite simply the dogs are the product. Doesn't mean the puppies are not going to decent homes.

If everyone else is selling a puppy for £3.5k, and people are prepared to pay that, you'd be stupid to sell them for £2k.

I'm stupid!!

Quite interestingly as well, one of my friends works for a water company, he was talking about the return to office working. The employee's were pushing back because they needed dog daycare. Their HR dept are actually looking at ways to solve the problem eek
HR departments across the country are suddenly finding they actually have to do something. Sympathy levels are low...

The flipside to "higher prices, better owners" is countered by "easy money, unscrupulous breeders"...