Most Aggressive Breed (towards other dogs)
Discussion
Obviously every dog is an individual. Much depends on socialisation and training. That aside some breeds seem to be more troublesome.
I,m going to nominate the Border Terrier. Evidence. I don't see many of them but a huge proportion are aggressive. My standard poodle got attached by one with zero provocation. My cousin has one which now has to be muzzled on walks after attacking several dogs. Only today I saw one on a lead snarling and snapping at a passing dog. Bared it,s teeth as my poodles passed as well. They just detoured round it and looked at it as if to say "you're an idiot".
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So have I just been unlucky and not met the typicall laid back easy going Borders?
I,m going to nominate the Border Terrier. Evidence. I don't see many of them but a huge proportion are aggressive. My standard poodle got attached by one with zero provocation. My cousin has one which now has to be muzzled on walks after attacking several dogs. Only today I saw one on a lead snarling and snapping at a passing dog. Bared it,s teeth as my poodles passed as well. They just detoured round it and looked at it as if to say "you're an idiot".
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So have I just been unlucky and not met the typicall laid back easy going Borders?
Lotobear said:
Collie, close thread.
Funnily enough a collie at my dog class nipped other dogs. Seemed through nervousness. And today when I was leaving the carpark with my dogs a dog walker was sticking a few dogs including a collie in his van. The collie was snarling and straining in the lead as we passed.Not sure all Collies make good family pets. Though unlike Border Terriers aggressive collies are a minority.
The border terriers at the local park all seem fine, Oscar seems a bit of a git but his rough playfulness which my dog adores could easily be mistaken for OTT aggression by other dogs/owners.
galtezza said:
Id go domesticated wolf, theres a breeder near us, he needs a special licence and theyre never allowed off a lead away from his land & are muzzled at all times, he reckons they tolerate no dogs and if they fight then its to the end! Nice!
I sometimes see conflicting stories about "wolf dogs" and if they actually have wolf genetics within. I believe you need a wild animal licence for them and hybrids. Given wolves are so powerful, intelligent and by their very design, apex predators, I struggle to see how they can be truly domesticated if such wolves or hybrids are around... then again I have seen YT videos of wolves French kissing a lass returning to where they are kept so what do I know!burpface said:
Akita can be very troublesome. All comes down to the owners as usual
Grown up with dogs, worked security with dogs, all sorts... Akitas are the one breed I've never been 100% comfortable with. A mate had one and it was a cracker but fiercely obedient to him alone. There are a couple near my address and whenever people or dogs are close you will see the owners duck into a drive or down a side street to avoid. It's a shame as I really feel people ought to enjoy dog ownership as much as the dog. I think the black face/dark features make it difficult to get a read on them beyond body language too. 
beambeam1 said:
Grown up with dogs, worked security with dogs, all sorts... Akitas are the one breed I've never been 100% comfortable with. A mate had one and it was a cracker but fiercely obedient to him alone. There are a couple near my address and whenever people or dogs are close you will see the owners duck into a drive or down a side street to avoid. It's a shame as I really feel people ought to enjoy dog ownership as much as the dog. I think the black face/dark features make it difficult to get a read on them beyond body language too.
Yeah, i think they have very loyal traits towards their one master, but are so dominant, they see everything/one else as needing to be dominated. (should stick one at the top of the stairs! 🤣)Close to us a couple moved in with one recently, within 3 weeks it had attacked a fellow dog walker and his dog, attacked a German shepherd, then a week later it attacked and killed their neighbours dog.
Similar story with my friend's Akita. He started a new job doing shifts and she was a teacher so they organised a dog walker. Dog walker didn't even come to meet the dog just took a key one day and let herself in. Dog met her at the door then followed her out, she clipped on a lead and all was fine... got to gate and he just clamps on to her arm causing considerable damage. I think as far as he was concerned, he wasn't leaving the house unprotected and wasn't leaving with a stranger either.
Foolish actions by all if you ask me. Akita was put down, him and missus split and he got two bullmastiff type dogs which I ended up taking on because his new gf hit the roof when she found out dog walker had sued successfully for £££ and that her half of the house she had bought off the ex was at risk!
Haven't heard from him for several years now but I suppose reading that back he had no business owning an Akita or any dog in the first place!
Foolish actions by all if you ask me. Akita was put down, him and missus split and he got two bullmastiff type dogs which I ended up taking on because his new gf hit the roof when she found out dog walker had sued successfully for £££ and that her half of the house she had bought off the ex was at risk!
Haven't heard from him for several years now but I suppose reading that back he had no business owning an Akita or any dog in the first place!
Any dog.
A neighbour near me has a Labrador that has disembowelled and killed another dog. Seems a pleasant enough dog, but it absolutely hates other dogs.
Our GSDs are very funny when confronted with aggressive dogs - they retreat to about 3 foot on front of whichever one of us is walking them, and just sit down side by side. The aggressive dog comes piling up, giving it large, and our two just turn into werewolves in the blink of an eye when it gets too close. Thankfully everything has decided that the game is over at this point, I suspect they’d rip it to pieces if it came for us.
I think saying “breed x” is very loyal to the owner is down to the owners as much as the dog. GSDs have the same traits, but we made very sure that they could be walked by anyone since they arrived at 8 weeks old. We also made sure they could meet the postie and delivery drivers etc.
A neighbour near me has a Labrador that has disembowelled and killed another dog. Seems a pleasant enough dog, but it absolutely hates other dogs.
Our GSDs are very funny when confronted with aggressive dogs - they retreat to about 3 foot on front of whichever one of us is walking them, and just sit down side by side. The aggressive dog comes piling up, giving it large, and our two just turn into werewolves in the blink of an eye when it gets too close. Thankfully everything has decided that the game is over at this point, I suspect they’d rip it to pieces if it came for us.
I think saying “breed x” is very loyal to the owner is down to the owners as much as the dog. GSDs have the same traits, but we made very sure that they could be walked by anyone since they arrived at 8 weeks old. We also made sure they could meet the postie and delivery drivers etc.
Edited by rxe on Wednesday 16th December 23:47
Chow Chow.
I admit I've only come across 2 but they were both went straight for an attack. Fortunately in both case I was with an Afghan Hound, both the dogs mainly ended up getting mouthfuls of fur while they were physically separated.
I admit I've only come across 2 but they were both went straight for an attack. Fortunately in both case I was with an Afghan Hound, both the dogs mainly ended up getting mouthfuls of fur while they were physically separated.
Edited by Fittster on Thursday 17th December 00:00
Another vote for Akitas. Not sure if it is the type of owner but even show dogs I ve seen be a bit off with other dogs . Never met one that could be described as friendly or that I would trust .
Better experience with Border Terriers but any terrier of the same sex can be reactive - guess we've bred them to have quick responses.
Your point about Collies I think is correct about nervous ones - this goes for most breeds but under socialised or badly bred GSD s have the teeth to do real damage . Some of the most tolerant dogs I ve seen are also GSDs who will ignore other dogs bad behaviour for quite a while
Better experience with Border Terriers but any terrier of the same sex can be reactive - guess we've bred them to have quick responses.
Your point about Collies I think is correct about nervous ones - this goes for most breeds but under socialised or badly bred GSD s have the teeth to do real damage . Some of the most tolerant dogs I ve seen are also GSDs who will ignore other dogs bad behaviour for quite a while
Fittster said:
Turn7 said:
It is clearly not breed related, end of thread.......
You don't think some breeds of dogs are inherently more aggressive than other? Some breeds have been bred to be aggressive (the owners claim they are simply loyal and protect 
). But every dog is only ever as good as the berk that taught it - see also Children.
WAAY to easy and Daily Wail to blame a dog without looking at how it has been brought up.
Edited by Turn7 on Thursday 17th December 00:02
Turn7 said:
Fittster said:
Turn7 said:
It is clearly not breed related, end of thread.......
You don't think some breeds of dogs are inherently more aggressive than other? Some breeds have been bred to be aggressive (the owners claim they are simply loyal and protect ). But every dog is only ever as good as the berk that taught it - see also Children.
WAAY to easy and Daily Wail to blame a dog without looking at how it has been brought up.
Edited by Turn7 on Thursday 17th December 00:02
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