Magic Mushrooms

[MXRod]

Our dog did not have a good day yesterday , started with a big dose of squits and very bad wind , later in the day during the afternoon walk she chucked up twice then flopped down panting and would not move , had to be picked up in the car to get her home . We put it down to the heat and overdoing it chasing a ball . When home the panting continued , also showing very pale gums and tongue .
After a while the panting subsided , she appeared to settle with colour back in her gums and tongue she then eat some food , a little later she threw a small amount up again , so we let her out in the garden.
That is when we caught her eating the minute mushrooms that had appeared in the grass, when we got her indoors she seemed spaced out ,a bit of Googling revealed them to be Liberty Cap ( Magic) mushrooms . These are so small we had not spotted them until that moment
We took her straight to the vet EM dept . where they kept her in overnight , put her on a drip , and also anti vomiting treatment .
The symptoms were classic for the dog ingesting the mushrooms but fortunately it was mild , and she is now recovered . Albeit with a bill of almost £900 for tests medication .

Found in our grass


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Edited by MXRod on Friday 19th June 13:38

[mickyh7]

And your address is?
Only joking, you'll have the Hippies setting up camp soon!

[MXRod]

mickyh7 said:

And your address is?
Only joking, you'll have the Hippies setting up camp soon!

Mind you having seen the side effects on our dog , I know I would steer well clear of them .

[softtop]

we've got loads coming through, doing my best to remove them.

[Mobile Chicane]

What you have are not 'magic' mushrooms. The stem is too thick, the cap not 'nipply' enough, plus it's too early in the year to find them.

My suggestion would be Entoloma conferendum: https://www.first-nature.com/fungi/entoloma-confer...

For future reference there is a very useful Facebook group dedicated to plant / fungi emergency poisoning assistance:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/144798092849300/

Edited by Mobile Chicane on Friday 19th June 18:24

[MXRod]

Mobile Chicane said:

What you have are not 'magic' mushrooms. The stem is too thick, the cap not 'nipply' enough, plus it's too early in the year to find them.

My suggestion would be Entoloma conferendum: https://www.first-nature.com/fungi/entoloma-confer...

For future reference there is a very useful Facebook group dedicated to plant / fungi emergency poisoning assistance:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/144798092849300/

Edited by Mobile Chicane on Friday 19th June 18:24

I beg to differ

The vet checked with the veterinary poisons information service with the sample I gave them and the mushrooms have been confirmed as being Psilocybe semilanceata, Magic Mushroom, Liberty Cap.

A report in the Independent noted due to mild winter etc the mushrooms have appeared earlier this year .
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/magic-mu...

Also the dog exhibited the classic symptoms of being affected by the mushrooms , and even though she has now been home for 24 hrs ,is still a bit subdued
She is due for a further blood test in 2 weeks as a liver function test shows elevated ALT values , again as a result of ingesting mushrooms .
As we do not allow the dog to scavenge while we are out walking in the country , and these mushrooms were found in our garden , in my view this is pretty conclusive as to what the dog ate and where she got it from .

To be honest if it is a choice between the experts at my Vets and a Facebook group ( considering the Facebook performance over the Virus )
I know who I will be taking advice from .

Edited by MXRod on Saturday 20th June 09:29

[mickyh7]

It's probably 5G Towers causing the Mushrooms to grow in your Garden.
I checked Facebook so I know I'm correct.
I suggest setting them on fire.
The Towers, not the Mushrooms lol

[MXRod]

mickyh7 said:

It's probably 5G Towers causing the Mushrooms to grow in your Garden.
I checked Facebook so I know I'm correct.
I suggest setting them on fire.
The Towers, not the Mushrooms lol

[anonymous-user]

That article was written in January. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I have never heard of magic mushrooms growing in the summer

[Boosted LS1]

I don't think the original picture's a magic mushroom either. It hasn't got a distinct nipple or turned blue where it's been picked. It's more likely to be a haymaker. Easy mistake to make when picking before you fine tune onto the 'good' ones.

I've consumed a lot more the the vet will have :-)

Magic mushrooms in my area emerge in the autumn just after when the mornings are turning cold. Well, they used to 40 years ago :-)

These are magic mushrooms. Thick stem and a blue tinge at the base of the stalk.




I'm glad your dog's on the mend OP.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:50

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:51

[mickyh7]

I hope your Dog makes a good recovery.

[moorx]

Glad to hear that she is (mostly) better, hope the recovery continues. It must have been very worrying.

[Brads67]

£900

wow.

A zero tab and some Andrews salts would have had the same effect.

[Thevet]

Brads67 said:

£900

wow.

A zero tab and some Andrews salts would have had the same effect.

glad you're so confident when someone is at risk. 10/10 for belonging to FBlevel of sense

[Mobile Chicane]

MXRod said:

Mobile Chicane said:

What you have are not 'magic' mushrooms. The stem is too thick, the cap not 'nipply' enough, plus it's too early in the year to find them.

My suggestion would be Entoloma conferendum: https://www.first-nature.com/fungi/entoloma-confer...

For future reference there is a very useful Facebook group dedicated to plant / fungi emergency poisoning assistance:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/144798092849300/

Edited by Mobile Chicane on Friday 19th June 18:24

I beg to differ

The vet checked with the veterinary poisons information service with the sample I gave them and the mushrooms have been confirmed as being Psilocybe semilanceata, Magic Mushroom, Liberty Cap.

A report in the Independent noted due to mild winter etc the mushrooms have appeared earlier this year .
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/magic-mu...

Also the dog exhibited the classic symptoms of being affected by the mushrooms , and even though she has now been home for 24 hrs ,is still a bit subdued
She is due for a further blood test in 2 weeks as a liver function test shows elevated ALT values , again as a result of ingesting mushrooms .
As we do not allow the dog to scavenge while we are out walking in the country , and these mushrooms were found in our garden , in my view this is pretty conclusive as to what the dog ate and where she got it from .

To be honest if it is a choice between the experts at my Vets and a Facebook group ( considering the Facebook performance over the Virus )
I know who I will be taking advice from .

Edited by MXRod on Saturday 20th June 09:29

Your vet is simply wrong. Those are not Psilocybe semilanceata.

I know my mushrooms - I've been studying them for 20 years.

The Facebook group I linked to contains academics far more expert than I. It's where vets go to get emergency IDs. Only admins - some of whom are the world's leading authorities on mushroom poisoning and treatment - may offer an ID.

My suspected species is not recommended as an edible for people - it could well have caused gastric upset in a dog.

Glad the dog is on the mend though.

Edited by Mobile Chicane on Saturday 20th June 15:59

[Mobile Chicane]

Boosted LS1 said:

I don't think the original picture's a magic mushroom either. It hasn't got a distinct nipple or turned blue where it's been picked. It's more likely to be a haymaker. Easy mistake to make when picking before you fine tune onto the 'good' ones.

I've consumed a lot more the the vet will have :-)

Magic mushrooms in my area emerge in the autumn just after when the mornings are turning cold. Well, they used to 40 years ago :-)

These are magic mushrooms. Thick stem and a blue tinge at the base of the stalk.




I'm glad your dog's on the mend OP.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:50

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:51

Those you posted are Psilocybe cubensis, which are not native to the UK.

[Mobile Chicane]

hucumber said:

That article was written in January. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I have never heard of magic mushrooms growing in the summer

Magic mushrooms don't grow in summer - at least not in this half of it.

What the article says is that species which would normally be killed off by the first frosts, had an extended growing season.

[anonymous-user]

I would need to see the nipple on top of the mushroom to be sure.

however I doubt it's the cause. Mushrooms take a while to kick in, and he would have had to have had quite a few.

[Boosted LS1]

Mobile Chicane said:

Boosted LS1 said:

I don't think the original picture's a magic mushroom either. It hasn't got a distinct nipple or turned blue where it's been picked. It's more likely to be a haymaker. Easy mistake to make when picking before you fine tune onto the 'good' ones.

I've consumed a lot more the the vet will have :-)

Magic mushrooms in my area emerge in the autumn just after when the mornings are turning cold. Well, they used to 40 years ago :-)

These are magic mushrooms. Thick stem and a blue tinge at the base of the stalk.




I'm glad your dog's on the mend OP.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:50

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th June 14:51

Those you posted are Psilocybe cubensis, which are not native to the UK.

It was more to illustrate the bluing of the stems.

[Mobile Chicane]

Boosted LS1 said:

Mobile Chicane said:

Boosted LS1 said:

I don't think the original picture's a magic mushroom either. It hasn't got a distinct nipple or turned blue where it's been picked. It's more likely to be a haymaker. Easy mistake to make when picking before you fine tune onto the 'good' ones.

I've consumed a lot more the the vet will have :-)

Magic mushrooms in my area emerge in the autumn just after when the mornings are turning cold. Well, they used to 40 years ago :-)

These are magic mushrooms. Thick stem and a blue tinge at the base of the stalk.




I'm glad your dog's on the mend OP.


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Those you posted are Psilocybe cubensis, which are not native to the UK.

It was more to illustrate the bluing of the stems.

Right. Not seen them do that - however monitors vary. I'd describe the blue tingeing on the base of Liberty Caps as a dark indigo blue, rather than anything as bright as that.

However I do agree with you on the likely mushroom ID: 'haymaker', or Panaeolus foenisecii.

Harmless, though the vet did the right thing if they couldn't ID.