What type of fish ?
Author
Discussion

Moto

Original Poster:

1,283 posts

282 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
Hi. Any fishermen out there able to tell me what type of fish this is.





There were over 30 of them all between 6 & 10" long lying around in the sunshine on a hot day today in the small river at the back of our house. It's a small Herefordshire river that runs into the River Wye.

I've looked through various books and Google and they look closest to Rudd or Roach but not they're not 'tall' enough. They're very sleek, long and low (not a humped back). I thought they were brown trout but they don't seem to look anything like the pictures I've found of them.

Cheers

Moto

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
They are Roach.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
They definitely aren't trout.

Fin colour is too red for roach UNLESS they are roach/rudd hybrids - crossbreed naturally & causes a lot of ID problems for record claims and 'big fish' pics in the Angling mags.
Can only be id'd definitely by scale & fin ray count plus DNA from a scale & I believe a scale is required for a BRFC claim.

That said, I would lean towards rudd.

CypSIdders

1,276 posts

183 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
I would say rudd rather than roach. simply going by the colouring.
Roach cruising near the surface look grey with a slight green tinge.
Assuming they're not hybrids, rudd have a protruding lower lip, roach do not.

They're most definitely not trout of any sort whatsoever!

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
They're fins look a bit amber to me.

merlin75

105 posts

186 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
100% rudd

Big Al.

69,336 posts

287 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
My guess would be golden orfe.

Check out this lot:-

https://www.google.com/search?q=golden+orfe.&s...

BarryP

594 posts

173 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
Another vote for Rudd, the red fins are the giveaway.

2 GKC

2,305 posts

134 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
Roach, certainly not golden orfe

CypSIdders

1,276 posts

183 months

Monday 25th May 2020
quotequote all
One of the tell tale signs between a roach and a rudd is the position of the dorsal fin in relation to the pelvic fins.
On a roach the dorsal fin is in line with the pelvic fins, on a rudd the dorsal fin is located behind the pelvic fins, as in the photos provided.
Assuming, of course that they're not hybrids!

Moto

Original Poster:

1,283 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
quotequote all
Cheers All. Looks like Rudd it is then.

Moto