Agressive dogs... what to do
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The mrs decided to get two dogs. I said not to unless she was going to train them properly. She didn't train them at all.
They are nice dogs, very soft and gentle. Wouldn't hurt anyone, but ...
When walking them they are extremely aggressive to other dogs and to a lesser degree people. Lots of nasty sounding parking and straining at the lead. When they do manage to get within 6" of "the enemy" they have a sniff, shut up and roll over for a tummy tickle. But of course it is scary for children and most people to be confronted with that.
I think they missed out on the key stage as puppies where they meet other people/animals all day every day to socialise them so now anyone else is an outsider and to be dominated.
What can I do about this at this late stage?
They are both mongrels from the same litter and comprise endless different breeds. They are about 5-6 years old.
TIA
They are nice dogs, very soft and gentle. Wouldn't hurt anyone, but ...
When walking them they are extremely aggressive to other dogs and to a lesser degree people. Lots of nasty sounding parking and straining at the lead. When they do manage to get within 6" of "the enemy" they have a sniff, shut up and roll over for a tummy tickle. But of course it is scary for children and most people to be confronted with that.
I think they missed out on the key stage as puppies where they meet other people/animals all day every day to socialise them so now anyone else is an outsider and to be dominated.
What can I do about this at this late stage?
They are both mongrels from the same litter and comprise endless different breeds. They are about 5-6 years old.
TIA
As above you need professional help.
Essentially the dogs arent socialised and have formed a closed pack, a problem made worse by the fact that they are from the same litter. This can also lead the dogs to be bonded to each other rather than the owner, which makes behaviour correction all the more difficult.
You may never be able to fix the problem but by working with someone you should learn how to at least manage it.
Essentially the dogs arent socialised and have formed a closed pack, a problem made worse by the fact that they are from the same litter. This can also lead the dogs to be bonded to each other rather than the owner, which makes behaviour correction all the more difficult.
You may never be able to fix the problem but by working with someone you should learn how to at least manage it.
Try getting them out with other dogs.
A family members Husky/ Akita cross was aggressive and snarly to another dog that my Rottweiler was fond of. The Cross got a proper telling off (no biting etc) and after that happened a few times it is now happy with all dogs seemingly.
Good socialising around people who can read their own dog is very beneficial.
Dave!
A family members Husky/ Akita cross was aggressive and snarly to another dog that my Rottweiler was fond of. The Cross got a proper telling off (no biting etc) and after that happened a few times it is now happy with all dogs seemingly.
Good socialising around people who can read their own dog is very beneficial.
Dave!
Ahbefive said:
keirik said:
Ignore the idiot that says get rid. All dogs can be trained with the right effort and motivation
Juvenile insults get nobody anywhere. I disagree with both your points.We’re going through similar with our rescue. He barks and lunges at other dogs on the lead which isn’t necessarily aggressive, but can quickly escalate to a tussle.
We’ve been seeing a behaviourist one to one and it’s really helped. The emphasis is on getting the dog calm and relaxed before any interactions and not punishing him if he does bark and pull.
We’ve been seeing a behaviourist one to one and it’s really helped. The emphasis is on getting the dog calm and relaxed before any interactions and not punishing him if he does bark and pull.
A lady who walks a small unsocialised dog near us has pop at everything, human or canine.
I now give it a biscuit each time we meet, no more having a pop (at us) instead she pulls towards us, and sees us as a good thing.
Still funny with other people and dogs though, she needs to take it to the next stage.
I now give it a biscuit each time we meet, no more having a pop (at us) instead she pulls towards us, and sees us as a good thing.
Still funny with other people and dogs though, she needs to take it to the next stage.
keirik said:
Ahbefive said:
keirik said:
Ignore the idiot that says get rid. All dogs can be trained with the right effort and motivation
Juvenile insults get nobody anywhere. I disagree with both your points.MikeStroud said:
The mrs decided to get two dogs. I said not to unless she was going to train them properly. She didn't train them at all.
They are nice dogs, very soft and gentle. Wouldn't hurt anyone, but ...
When walking them they are extremely aggressive to other dogs and to a lesser degree people. Lots of nasty sounding parking and straining at the lead. When they do manage to get within 6" of "the enemy" they have a sniff, shut up and roll over for a tummy tickle. But of course it is scary for children and most people to be confronted with that.
I think they missed out on the key stage as puppies where they meet other people/animals all day every day to socialise them so now anyone else is an outsider and to be dominated.
What can I do about this at this late stage?
They are both mongrels from the same litter and comprise endless different breeds. They are about 5-6 years old.
TIA
More irresponsible dog owners. They are nice dogs, very soft and gentle. Wouldn't hurt anyone, but ...
When walking them they are extremely aggressive to other dogs and to a lesser degree people. Lots of nasty sounding parking and straining at the lead. When they do manage to get within 6" of "the enemy" they have a sniff, shut up and roll over for a tummy tickle. But of course it is scary for children and most people to be confronted with that.
I think they missed out on the key stage as puppies where they meet other people/animals all day every day to socialise them so now anyone else is an outsider and to be dominated.
What can I do about this at this late stage?
They are both mongrels from the same litter and comprise endless different breeds. They are about 5-6 years old.
TIA
Was it the brainy lazy Mrs that decided two would be better than one?
Get rid and buy two goldfish.
Are they neutered or intact? If they're intact, you need to get them neutered otherwise no amount of training will overcome their instinct. I had an 80lbs pit bull and 120lbs mastiff mix. The pit passed a couple a years ago due to cancer and the mastiff barely walks anymore. I could not walk them both together when they were young because they were too strong for me and would get too excited. When I walked them separately, they would get excited for the first 20 minutes lunge at anything in front of them until they were a little tired and calmed down.
I could not say that they were ever fully trained but they calmed down as they got older. The important thing is to know your dog and be able to control them when they are in public. You also have to be aware of your surroundings. I had to pick my pit bull up and put him on a wall when an irish setter got loose from its owner and charged him. Another time, I had to pin him down on the floor because two yappy dogs that were being walked off a leash went after him.
No dog should be walked off the leash in a public place but many idiots do and you really need to know your dog and be able to physically control him. Would I get another pit bull? absolutely. I found mine on the street in an industrial park and he was half starved and suffering from heart worm. I lost him 8 years later. That was only sad day he gave me.
I could not say that they were ever fully trained but they calmed down as they got older. The important thing is to know your dog and be able to control them when they are in public. You also have to be aware of your surroundings. I had to pick my pit bull up and put him on a wall when an irish setter got loose from its owner and charged him. Another time, I had to pin him down on the floor because two yappy dogs that were being walked off a leash went after him.
No dog should be walked off the leash in a public place but many idiots do and you really need to know your dog and be able to physically control him. Would I get another pit bull? absolutely. I found mine on the street in an industrial park and he was half starved and suffering from heart worm. I lost him 8 years later. That was only sad day he gave me.
Edited by alabbasi on Sunday 24th February 06:48
Im sorry but the above advice is nonsense.
Do not neuter two male dogs at the same time if they are both male. Neuter the submissive one or they will both fight to re establish order.
Also if your dogs are approached in a manner they dont like you need to be able to withdraw them from the situation calmly. Pinning them to the ground only reinforces the idea that other dogs mean bad things happen to them.
Do not neuter two male dogs at the same time if they are both male. Neuter the submissive one or they will both fight to re establish order.
Also if your dogs are approached in a manner they dont like you need to be able to withdraw them from the situation calmly. Pinning them to the ground only reinforces the idea that other dogs mean bad things happen to them.
Good grief, another know it all. For the OP, If you're in a situation where dogs that are off the leash are charging at your dog, you'll not get an option to withdraw calmly. The dogs off the leash are charging at your dog and while you have control of your dog, nobody is in control of the other dogs so it's up to you to act quickly to avoid a catastrophe. If you own a pit, rottweiler, or other large breed , you'll be blamed no matter what the circumstances so it's best that you know how to control the situation, avoid the liability and leave the socialization lessons for another day.
Edited by alabbasi on Sunday 24th February 07:02
alabbasi said:
Are they neutered or intact? If they're intact, you need to get them neutered otherwise no amount of training will overcome their instinct. I had an 80lbs pit bull and 120lbs mastiff mix. The pit passed a couple a years ago due to cancer and the mastiff barely walks anymore. I could not walk them both together when they were young because they were too strong for me and would get too excited. When I walked them separately, they would get excited for the first 20 minutes lunge at anything in front of them until they were a little tired and calmed down.
I could not say that they were ever fully trained but they calmed down as they got older. The important thing is to know your dog and be able to control them when they are in public. You also have to be aware of your surroundings. I had to pick my pit bull up and put him on a wall when an irish setter got loose from its owner and charged him. Another time, I had to pin him down on the floor because two yappy dogs that were being walked off a leash went after him.
No dog should be walked off the leash in a public place but many idiots do and you really need to know your dog and be able to physically control him. Would I get another pit bull? absolutely. I found mine on the street in an industrial park and he was half starved and suffering from heart worm. I lost him 8 years later. That was only sad day he gave me.
Pitbull owner in 'totally clueless' shocker.I could not say that they were ever fully trained but they calmed down as they got older. The important thing is to know your dog and be able to control them when they are in public. You also have to be aware of your surroundings. I had to pick my pit bull up and put him on a wall when an irish setter got loose from its owner and charged him. Another time, I had to pin him down on the floor because two yappy dogs that were being walked off a leash went after him.
No dog should be walked off the leash in a public place but many idiots do and you really need to know your dog and be able to physically control him. Would I get another pit bull? absolutely. I found mine on the street in an industrial park and he was half starved and suffering from heart worm. I lost him 8 years later. That was only sad day he gave me.
Edited by alabbasi on Sunday 24th February 06:48
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