fits and epelipsy
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just got back from the Emergency Vet . Our 4 year old Bobby had some sort of fit or seizure at about 9pm.
It lasted about 1 min and it was the most frightening thing I have see we felt so helpless and didn't have a clue how to help him other than hold him and talk to him.
Off to our Vet in the morning to see what is going on. Right now he is absolutely fine and was ok after about 10 mins or so.
anyone else had this horrible experience
It lasted about 1 min and it was the most frightening thing I have see we felt so helpless and didn't have a clue how to help him other than hold him and talk to him.
Off to our Vet in the morning to see what is going on. Right now he is absolutely fine and was ok after about 10 mins or so.
anyone else had this horrible experience
I understand that they don't really know whats happening to them so its not too bad for them .
He was fine within minutes and is at present fast asleep not a care in the world. Off to see our own VET at 4pm hopefully we can have a chat with him and try to understand what happened and why.
He came to us a puppy farm rescue Dog in a terrible state weighing 1.2kg he was so small and so poorly it took 6 months to get him sorted.
Thanks for the reply the first thought we had was he was having some sort of heart attack but then the body spasms started.
He was fine within minutes and is at present fast asleep not a care in the world. Off to see our own VET at 4pm hopefully we can have a chat with him and try to understand what happened and why.
He came to us a puppy farm rescue Dog in a terrible state weighing 1.2kg he was so small and so poorly it took 6 months to get him sorted.
Thanks for the reply the first thought we had was he was having some sort of heart attack but then the body spasms started.
My Lagotto is about to go for a full on blood test.
Since last June he’s occasionally had trance like episodes, and lashed out (unfortunately it’s been both my kids he’s done it to) when coming round.
No fitting, just seems to have emptiness behind the eyes, or staring into space.
Bit un-nerving for us all not knowing how he’s going to react.
Only happened a couple of times.
Vet seems to rule out a brain tumour or such as he has no other symptoms.
I know a blood test won’t show epilepsy, but ruling out anything else first to then try epilepsy meds.
The breed are known to have a defective gene that carries Juvenile epilepsy but he’s clear of that.
Had a collie x that had it - probably fitted twice a month, but she lived to 11 and died of cancer.
Since last June he’s occasionally had trance like episodes, and lashed out (unfortunately it’s been both my kids he’s done it to) when coming round.
No fitting, just seems to have emptiness behind the eyes, or staring into space.
Bit un-nerving for us all not knowing how he’s going to react.
Only happened a couple of times.
Vet seems to rule out a brain tumour or such as he has no other symptoms.
I know a blood test won’t show epilepsy, but ruling out anything else first to then try epilepsy meds.
The breed are known to have a defective gene that carries Juvenile epilepsy but he’s clear of that.
Had a collie x that had it - probably fitted twice a month, but she lived to 11 and died of cancer.
MellowshipSlinky said:
My Lagotto is about to go for a full on blood test.
Since last June he’s occasionally had trance like episodes, and lashed out (unfortunately it’s been both my kids he’s done it to) when coming round.
No fitting, just seems to have emptiness behind the eyes, or staring into space.
Bit un-nerving for us all not knowing how he’s going to react.
Only happened a couple of times.
Vet seems to rule out a brain tumour or such as he has no other symptoms.
I know a blood test won’t show epilepsy, but ruling out anything else first to then try epilepsy meds.
The breed are known to have a defective gene that carries Juvenile epilepsy but he’s clear of that.
Had a collie x that had it - probably fitted twice a month, but she lived to 11 and died of cancer.
you feel so helpless in not being able to help out the Dog yet I understand they feel no ill effects from the episode.Since last June he’s occasionally had trance like episodes, and lashed out (unfortunately it’s been both my kids he’s done it to) when coming round.
No fitting, just seems to have emptiness behind the eyes, or staring into space.
Bit un-nerving for us all not knowing how he’s going to react.
Only happened a couple of times.
Vet seems to rule out a brain tumour or such as he has no other symptoms.
I know a blood test won’t show epilepsy, but ruling out anything else first to then try epilepsy meds.
The breed are known to have a defective gene that carries Juvenile epilepsy but he’s clear of that.
Had a collie x that had it - probably fitted twice a month, but she lived to 11 and died of cancer.
Hope the blood tests find something you can work with not knowing is pretty difficult to deal with.
Two blood test tomorrow for Bobby one first thing and then another one after his food a couple of hours later.
Hope it’s a positive outcome.
Leo has his at 9am tomorrow.
Has a massive issue with vets (due to a very unsympathetic vet having him pinned down and muzzled because Leo looked at him funny..) so my new vet has given me some sedative to administer at home...
There’s every chance (in fact it’s a certainty!) that he’ll have to have a GA for them to take blood.
But at least I can get them to squeeze and empty his arse pods at the same time
Leo has his at 9am tomorrow.
Has a massive issue with vets (due to a very unsympathetic vet having him pinned down and muzzled because Leo looked at him funny..) so my new vet has given me some sedative to administer at home...
There’s every chance (in fact it’s a certainty!) that he’ll have to have a GA for them to take blood.
But at least I can get them to squeeze and empty his arse pods at the same time
Edited by MellowshipSlinky on Tuesday 5th February 16:29
we had a good vet with some dogs from the past who give us a mild sedative taken 30 mins before visiting it did help. Nothing worse than seeing your Dog stressed out is there you feel helpless.
Not sure what the blood tests will reveal ,anything that gives us an answer and a way forward would be good I guess.
Not sure what the blood tests will reveal ,anything that gives us an answer and a way forward would be good I guess.
Well, no chance was he taking the sedation off me!
He’s so bloody strong for his size.
Rocked up to the vets, she came out to reception and fussed him whilst slight of hand injected him with sedative.
10 mins later he was wobbling like me on a good Saturday night
Bloods done, ears plucked and arse squeezed.
Waiting for results now.
I’m laying on the floor with him waiting for him to come round...
He’s so bloody strong for his size.
Rocked up to the vets, she came out to reception and fussed him whilst slight of hand injected him with sedative.
10 mins later he was wobbling like me on a good Saturday night
Bloods done, ears plucked and arse squeezed.
Waiting for results now.
I’m laying on the floor with him waiting for him to come round...
MellowshipSlinky said:
Results back already, and apart from a slightly high liver reading, he’s absolutely healthy.
will need to keep an eye on how often these ‘absences’ happen and then see where to go next.
Same here blood test all OK so before we go down any other route we are just going to keep an eye on him for the next few weeks .will need to keep an eye on how often these ‘absences’ happen and then see where to go next.
At the moment he is just his normal self.
MellowshipSlinky said:
Well at least that’s one bit of good news.
Leo is still spaced out in the car - been like this since 10am!
Strong stuff they gave him..
We have been given some Valium for Bobby should the need arise I must admit I am stressed out enough to use it myself . Leo is still spaced out in the car - been like this since 10am!
Strong stuff they gave him..
I expect Leo is going to be a bit sleepy for the rest of the Day but at least he is not stressed.
Our old dog Lucy suffered from fits towards the latter end of her life (well, from about 12/13). It turned out she had a previously undiagnosed heart murmur (annoying they classed it as undiagnosed, she had been with the same vet her whole life pretty much) the heart murmur had caused scaring in one of the ventricles of her heart and when she would get excited or run and her heart rate elevated the scaring would block the ventricle and she would drop like a stone, fit and wet herself. Eventually we had to have her put to sleep (on our birthday) as she went downhill fast and one day her heart couldn't pump enough blood to keep her from fitting without also beating too slow to give her sufficient oxygen. She was such a wonderful dog with so much character to see her go downhill so fast was shocking but also a blessing that she didn't hang around and suffer.
Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
geeks said:
Our old dog Lucy suffered from fits towards the latter end of her life (well, from about 12/13). It turned out she had a previously undiagnosed heart murmur (annoying they classed it as undiagnosed, she had been with the same vet her whole life pretty much) the heart murmur had caused scaring in one of the ventricles of her heart and when she would get excited or run and her heart rate elevated the scaring would block the ventricle and she would drop like a stone, fit and wet herself. Eventually we had to have her put to sleep (on our birthday) as she went downhill fast and one day her heart couldn't pump enough blood to keep her from fitting without also beating too slow to give her sufficient oxygen. She was such a wonderful dog with so much character to see her go downhill so fast was shocking but also a blessing that she didn't hang around and suffer.
Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
No problem these pesky critters seem to get right into the very deepest parts of your soul and leave life long memories. We have had 6 rescue Dogs over the last 20 plus years and the 4 who have now left us did so having made a massive impact on our lives. They all came to us with severe problems but they seemed to teach us far more than we gave back to them. Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
I’ve just been told about these -
http://www.dorwest.com/product/scullcap-valerian-t...
Have ordered some for Leo as he is very noises sensitive which could be adding to his problems.
It mentions being used for epilepsy - being herbal, worth a go?
http://www.dorwest.com/product/scullcap-valerian-t...
Have ordered some for Leo as he is very noises sensitive which could be adding to his problems.
It mentions being used for epilepsy - being herbal, worth a go?
I have a friend who is associated with Leahurst part of john Moores university I hope to speak with soon he had a Dog who had terrible problems with Seizures . Until or if Bobby has another seizure we are pretty much in the wait and see camp. We have ordered a Camera to keep an eye on him whilst he is at home alone (not more than a couple of hours at a time) but apart from that I am not sure what more we can do
johnxjsc1985 said:
geeks said:
Our old dog Lucy suffered from fits towards the latter end of her life (well, from about 12/13). It turned out she had a previously undiagnosed heart murmur (annoying they classed it as undiagnosed, she had been with the same vet her whole life pretty much) the heart murmur had caused scaring in one of the ventricles of her heart and when she would get excited or run and her heart rate elevated the scaring would block the ventricle and she would drop like a stone, fit and wet herself. Eventually we had to have her put to sleep (on our birthday) as she went downhill fast and one day her heart couldn't pump enough blood to keep her from fitting without also beating too slow to give her sufficient oxygen. She was such a wonderful dog with so much character to see her go downhill so fast was shocking but also a blessing that she didn't hang around and suffer.
Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
No problem these pesky critters seem to get right into the very deepest parts of your soul and leave life long memories. We have had 6 rescue Dogs over the last 20 plus years and the 4 who have now left us did so having made a massive impact on our lives. They all came to us with severe problems but they seemed to teach us far more than we gave back to them. Sorry not looking to scare anyone just chipping in with what might come up on the subject. It has got rather dusty in here now so I will leave you all to it and wish all the doggos on here the best!
so we have had 5 full days with no further problems and no medication. He has been on 24 hour watch and his night time walk has been reduced to 20 mins or so. With his blood tests all OK I am not sure what more we can do other than try to get back to his normal routine and hope for the best. We have bought a Camera to keep an Eye on him when we are not around.
He seems perfectly normal no real signs of any changes and as his seizure happened when he was asleep we don't even know if there are any signs to look out for.
He seems perfectly normal no real signs of any changes and as his seizure happened when he was asleep we don't even know if there are any signs to look out for.
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