Jack's Rake - The lake District

[TheBALDpuma]

I wasn't sure where to put this so it's in here...

I'm planning on doing this walk in a few weeks time, we have a small (7-8kg) Patterdale Terrier - is she going to be able to get up it?? She's done loads of big walks (Helvellyn for example) but if there are big rocks we have to climb over, she might be a bit little to make it!

[Thevet]

Many years ago, 1989 I think, I took a wrong turn with my pal Hoover a 30 kg lab and headed down Jack's Rake..... Had to carry her under one arm for a bit, but got down ok. Think going up would have been easier, but a patterdale should fit in your pocket. If you and the dog are good on the hills, then it's not a problem but how good are your hands and how confident is your dog of you.
HTH what a dog Hoover was, my first canine friend.

[Wacky Racer]

I did Jack's Rake forty odd years ago, it's pretty tough but obviously without a dog.

Actually, I walked up Harrison Stickle last month, some pics here including Pavey Ark on the left. (Third picture)



Harrison Stickle, (one of the Langdale Pikes), top centre, the days objective from the New Dungeon Ghyll Hotel.....2404 ft.



From the summit, Great Gable, centre top, Scafell Pike, 3209ft extreme left at the top in the far distance.



Looking down on Stickle Tarn from near the summit of Harrison Stickle, Pavey Ark Rock face on the left, very popular with climbers.



The "lump" near the centre left of the picture is the "other" Langdale Pike, Pike 'o Stickle about half a mile away, an easy 30 minute walk, which we did, again with superb views of the Scafell massif.


Watch this and decide:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyggMmDxIx4&t=...

[Lotobear]

should be no problem, my Lakeland has been up there (a pattie in all but name) and she managed fine with a couple of scruff of the neck assists.

here she is on Sharp Edge - she went straight across the edge up and up the scramble unassisted. These dogs seems to know their natural terrain

[JQ]

Lotobear said:

should be no problem

Got to admit I'm slightly surprised by that. We have a place in Elterwater and I've been up Pavey Ark a number of times. I've seen numerous people end up off track and end up in very exposed locations, myself included as a youth. And the number of rescue helicopters buzzing around Stickle Tarn over the summer is scary. It's much more dangerous than people think.

We do hill walks with our dog, he's done Scafell Pike, Snowdon, and Ben Nevis without issue. Each to there own, but I wouldn't dream of taking him up Jack's Rake.

[edc]

There's a slightly easier way up. At the dam go right and walk round stickle tarn on the right side. There is a scramble up the right side from here. I did it in June as it started pissing it down.

[Lotobear]

..Jack's Rake is (IMO) less intimidating than Sharp Edge as on JR you are 'contained' after a fashion in the gulley whereas on Sharp Edge you really are exposed on both sides and in real danger of falling.

With a small terrier it's not a problem as if they struggle you can always give them a help by the scruff. The Collie in the group did struggle on JR mind!

Far more difficult is a scramble up sour Milk Gill onto Red Pike - there's a section where we had to rope the big dogs and throw the terriers a good 8 feet or so - all good fun though and the terriers lap it up

[popeyewhite]

Molly's quite a large dog and only needed a bit of help up JR. She's a talented scrambler though and thinks nothing of carrying her ball with her up a mountain. Top of the Watkin:

[TheBALDpuma]

Thanks for the info everyone, with a few people on either side of the fence! I think if conditions are perfect we might give it a go, otherwise leave it for a better day.

[Lotobear]

..you could go 'easy gully' if conditions aren't good but in some ways it's more tricky, especially at the top