First Law of Dog walking

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Gandahar

Original Poster:

9,600 posts

134 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Your dog is always right.

2nd Law.

Other dog walkers who don't appreciate this fact are insane nutcases who think their dog is always right.

Zeroth Law

You must always put your dog on a lead even though dogs on leads reduces the fight or flight options by 50% and millions of years of evolution is down the pan.

Tertiary law.

Owners with little dogs will often pick them up to protect them but never put them on their heads as a pretend furry hat.



Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 21st November 21:38

Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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I assume another dog owner's upset you? If your dog's ordinary then leave it off leash. If it's something that frightens everybody including you, then don't.

megamaniac

1,060 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Gandahar said:
Zeroth Law

You must always put your dog on a lead even though dogs on leads reduces the fight or flight options by 50% and millions of years of evolution is down the pan.
Nope.

Almost never. Near traffic, perhaps.


We all live in different surroundings and different dogs.
One of ours is always on the lead, i never let him off.The other i don't even bother taking a lead for.

HTP99

23,147 posts

146 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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megamaniac said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Gandahar said:
Zeroth Law

You must always put your dog on a lead even though dogs on leads reduces the fight or flight options by 50% and millions of years of evolution is down the pan.
Nope.

Almost never. Near traffic, perhaps.


We all live in different surroundings and different dogs.
One of ours is always on the lead, i never let him off.The other i don't even bother taking a lead for.
Daisy (Frenchie) is always on a lead, the other 2 (Terriers), come off but only on a field, park, woods etc, never near a road.

e30m3Mark

16,360 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Mine are off the lead as often as possible but not around roads. I can't walk very far or very fast, so they need some free reign to be able to exercise properly. I love seeing my labrador run across the beach and into the sea. Simple pleasures and all that.

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Our Westie has me on a lead until we get to the field.

zygalski

7,759 posts

151 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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First law should be clear up your dog's st.
Second law should be clear up your dog's st.
Third law should be clear up you dog's st
And so on.

mike74

3,687 posts

138 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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zygalski said:
First law should be clear up your dog's st.
Second law should be clear up your dog's st.
Third law should be clear up you dog's st
And so on.
... Fourth law should be clear up your dog's st and dispose of it PROPERLY, do not just throw the bag of st on the floor, or hang it from a tree or chuck it in a nearby pond!

Justin S

3,656 posts

267 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Next law, is if you see my wife put our border on its lead, its not really wanting to see your dog, so please observe and stop walking towards her. You have acres of space to avoid her.

gooner1

10,223 posts

185 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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zygalski said:
First law should be clear up your dog's st.
Second law should be clear up your dog's st.
Third law should be clear up you dog's st
And so on.
Don't know what you're feeding your dog, but it
seems to be stting an awful lot.

Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

266 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Justin S said:
Next law, is if you see my wife put our border on its lead, its not really wanting to see your dog, so please observe and stop walking towards her. You have acres of space to avoid her.
Or she should avoid everybody else with their normal dogs?

mike74

3,687 posts

138 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
Or she should avoid everybody else with their normal dogs?
This.

I get sick of the people who only venture out into the ''wilderness'' (for them at least) on Sundays and Bank Holidays then give you dirty looks or make a comment about ''controlling your dog'' when your entirely calm, friendly and sociable dog trots up to theirs with his tail wagging to say hello.

It's usually these same people who my previous comment is also aimed at... there always seems to be a large increase in bags of dog st hanging off trees following a sunny Bank Holiday

moorx

3,777 posts

120 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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As far as I'm concerned, the only law of dog walking is to have some common courtesy and common sense.

Those of you with friendly, well-socialised dogs, good for you.

But please just consider that not every dog might have had the best upbringing or history. Sometimes this is not the fault of the current owner. Sometimes they've 'inherited' these problems, but still love their dog and want the best for it.

Some dogs are elderly or frail, or recovering from illness and don't want other dogs rushing over, no matter how friendly.

Some dogs can't go off lead because of their breed traits/history/what they've had trained into them by humans.

I've had dogs of all these types and currently have a mixture of very dog friendly and not so dog friendly. I may have given the odd 'dirty look' to people whose dogs have run over to mine when they've been on lead, but I've also had many, many 'dirty looks' from owners who have obviously never experienced these difficulties.

I think we all just need to respect the fact that everyone and every dog is different.

Countdown

41,660 posts

202 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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mike74 said:
zygalski said:
First law should be clear up your dog's st.
Second law should be clear up your dog's st.
Third law should be clear up you dog's st
And so on.
... Fourth law should be clear up your dog's st and dispose of it PROPERLY, do not just throw the bag of st on the floor, or hang it from a tree or chuck it in a nearby pond!
Both of the above, in spades.

HTP99

23,147 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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moorx said:
As far as I'm concerned, the only law of dog walking is to have some common courtesy and common sense.

Those of you with friendly, well-socialised dogs, good for you.

But please just consider that not every dog might have had the best upbringing or history. Sometimes this is not the fault of the current owner. Sometimes they've 'inherited' these problems, but still love their dog and want the best for it.

Some dogs are elderly or frail, or recovering from illness and don't want other dogs rushing over, no matter how friendly.

Some dogs can't go off lead because of their breed traits/history/what they've had trained into them by humans.

I've had dogs of all these types and currently have a mixture of very dog friendly and not so dog friendly. I may have given the odd 'dirty look' to people whose dogs have run over to mine when they've been on lead, but I've also had many, many 'dirty looks' from owners who have obviously never experienced these difficulties.

I think we all just need to respect the fact that everyone and every dog is different.
Absolutely.

I have three dogs, 2 are OK with other dogs, 1 isn't, we rehomed her at a year old, she's deaf so hates other dogs sneaking up so unfortunately is always on the defensive, I wouldn't be surprised if there other issues too from her past which we are not aware of as she originated from a Spanish market.

She also had a very unsettled first year of her life, living with 3 different people.


Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 26th November 13:08

Escort3500

12,204 posts

151 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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HTP99 said:
moorx said:
As far as I'm concerned, the only law of dog walking is to have some common courtesy and common sense.

Those of you with friendly, well-socialised dogs, good for you.

But please just consider that not every dog might have had the best upbringing or history. Sometimes this is not the fault of the current owner. Sometimes they've 'inherited' these problems, but still love their dog and want the best for it.

Some dogs are elderly or frail, or recovering from illness and don't want other dogs rushing over, no matter how friendly.

Some dogs can't go off lead because of their breed traits/history/what they've had trained into them by humans.

I've had dogs of all these types and currently have a mixture of very dog friendly and not so dog friendly. I may have given the odd 'dirty look' to people whose dogs have run over to mine when they've been on lead, but I've also had many, many 'dirty looks' from owners who have obviously never experienced these difficulties.

I think we all just need to respect the fact that everyone and every dog is different.
Absolutely.

I have three dogs, 2 are OK with other dogs, 1 isn't, we rehomed her at a year old, she's deaf so hates other dogs sneaking up so unfortunately is always on the defensive, I wouldn't be surprised if there other issues too from her past which we are not aware of as she originated from a Spanish market.

She also had a very unsettled first year of her life, living with 3 different people.


Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 26th November 13:08
Agree. We have 2 dogs. One's fine with other dogs, very obedient and so is off the lead (in suitable locations). The other is very nervous of others so is always on the lead. We also give other dogs a wide berth when out with him. Even so, we often get dog owners who think it's fine for their mutt to run up to ours, who then reacts. "Oh, it's OK, he's friendly". Well ours bloody isn't. Why do you think he's on a lead and we've tried to keep him away from yours? Even if we say "he's not good with other dogs..." as they approach, they don't seem to believe us. Then we sometimes get the "vicious dog/keep it under control" attitude. Really p****s us off. Rant over.


Edited by Escort3500 on Sunday 26th November 21:11

bakerstreet

4,812 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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What you also have to consider is dogs can make up their own minds weather they like each or not and this completely separate to control of your dog and weather its on a lead or not.

Dogs are also considerably faster at making the above judgement too.

IE. Dogs can take one look at each other go for each other both can be on a lead. That can be a bit frantic.

We had a greyhound for three years (RIP) and with me he spent most of his time on a lead, but Mrs BakerStreet used to off lead him everyday and rarely encountered an issue.

One of the biggest issues she had was other owners used to throw a ball into the distance for their hound and and ours would give chase and on nearly every occasion our hound would win the race to siad ball. However, poor old Herbie never really got the concept of bringing it back and on the rare occasion he did did pick it up and run back it would be to Mrs Bakerstreet and not the other dogs owner

However, I'm on a few Greyhound facebook groups and many of the owners get upset at off lead dogs simply running up the greyhound wanting to play. I think they forget that Greys are still dogs and you can't control other dog owners.

Also agree about picking up your dogs business.


Zoon

6,835 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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mike74 said:
... Fourth law should be clear up your dog's st and dispose of it PROPERLY, do not just throw the bag of st on the floor, or hang it from a tree or chuck it in a nearby pond!
I really don't see the benefit of picking st up in a plastic bag and then hanging it from a tree.

RizzoTheRat

25,853 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Rules clearly vary between countries. I'm currently working in the Netherlands and as far as I can tell the rules seem to be

1 - Don't pick up your dogs turd if it's on the pavement

2 - Don't make your dog walk.



I'm not kidding about 2, I see loads of things like this over here



MrBarry123

6,038 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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moorx said:
As far as I'm concerned, the only law of dog walking is to have some common courtesy and common sense.

Those of you with friendly, well-socialised dogs, good for you.

But please just consider that not every dog might have had the best upbringing or history. Sometimes this is not the fault of the current owner. Sometimes they've 'inherited' these problems, but still love their dog and want the best for it.

Some dogs are elderly or frail, or recovering from illness and don't want other dogs rushing over, no matter how friendly.

Some dogs can't go off lead because of their breed traits/history/what they've had trained into them by humans.

I've had dogs of all these types and currently have a mixture of very dog friendly and not so dog friendly. I may have given the odd 'dirty look' to people whose dogs have run over to mine when they've been on lead, but I've also had many, many 'dirty looks' from owners who have obviously never experienced these difficulties.

I think we all just need to respect the fact that everyone and every dog is different.
A very sensible post.

It's common sense that if you see someone who has a dog on a lead and/or harness and you can see they are purposefully avoiding other dogs, don't let your dog go trotting up to it with the belief that every dog loves him/her.

On the occasion where I've witnessed a dog on-lead reacting badly to a dog off-lead, it's because whilst the dog off-lead is perfectly friendly, its owner has no ability to recall the dog and therefore has no choice but to let it say hello to everyone and every other dog.