New UK Snake Species Discovered

New UK Snake Species Discovered

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Yipper

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5,964 posts

96 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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A new type of snake has been discovered in the UK, bringing the total number of species to four.

Adder.
Smooth snake.
Common grass snake.
Barred grass snake (new).

Cool watching grass snakes hunt in ponds / lakes (often seen while fishing) -- like mini Loch Ness monsters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40853286


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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Well yes and no, they've just decided to reclassify, not really as exciting - they haven't actually just discovered it!

This is based on mainland Europe research as well, not the UK.

It's never black and white with these sorts of classification, they seem to be relying on genetics and 'limited' hybridization - indicating a 'degree' of reproductive separation.

They are stretching things really, in the old days this would still be just considered a sub-species, as fertile hybridization is possible.

Smacks more of scientists looking for publicity than anything truly new.

nikaiyo2

4,977 posts

201 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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There is also a decent size population of Aesculapian Snakes (these are the snakes on that medical staff logo thing!) living on Regents Canal in London

TeaNoSugar

1,297 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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Maybe it's not quite the news it first appears, but that photo above is amazing. It appears that it's not breaking the surface tension of the water, but that must be an illusion. And a dragonfly on the snakes head is a nice bonus too.

Yipper

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5,964 posts

96 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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nikaiyo2 said:
There is also a decent size population of Aesculapian Snakes (these are the snakes on that medical staff logo thing!) living on Regents Canal in London
Interesting.

Apparently, there is also a small colony of aesculapian snakes in Conwy, North Wales.

Amazing how many exotic species now live in Britain in surprisingly large numbers, like wallabies, scorpions, etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625003/Lo...


carinatauk

1,428 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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That's a picture of a King Snake.

Here is an aesculapian snake


brman

1,233 posts

115 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Well yes and no, they've just decided to reclassify, not really as exciting - they haven't actually just discovered it!
indeed, we have had the "new" breed of grass snake at the bottom of our garden for at least 15 years wink
Often mistaken for adders although they are quite different if you are used to seeing both.