Ticks Prevention! Bravecto and the rest
Discussion
Hello all, we are taking the dogs over to France to the Landes forest area this summer for 3 weeks. I'm conscious that this might be an area where the dogs (and us, in fairness) could be targeted by ticks. I'm happy with the little blighters' removal procedure but would like to avoid them getting on to the dogs in the first place.
My mother who lives in the Ardennes in the middle of the forest swears by Bravecto, however both her dogs are fairly young and full of life whilst one of our is now 10 and getting on a bit (good thing it's a Westie with a short cut, should make it easy to spot anything) and I'd want to avoid anything that might be too strong for him.
On the vet recommendation we are also going to have the Cocker's coat cut short, especially around the paws and belly. She has a black coat and that's going to make it a pain is we leave it like this!
Anyone can recommend good products against ticks?
As the holiday season approaches, It hought this would be a topical subject for many here taking our pets over to warmer climes.
Cheers.
My mother who lives in the Ardennes in the middle of the forest swears by Bravecto, however both her dogs are fairly young and full of life whilst one of our is now 10 and getting on a bit (good thing it's a Westie with a short cut, should make it easy to spot anything) and I'd want to avoid anything that might be too strong for him.
On the vet recommendation we are also going to have the Cocker's coat cut short, especially around the paws and belly. She has a black coat and that's going to make it a pain is we leave it like this!
Anyone can recommend good products against ticks?
As the holiday season approaches, It hought this would be a topical subject for many here taking our pets over to warmer climes.
Cheers.
We don't use anything on our whippets, but am open to suggestions.
It is often easier to locate ticks by feel rather than sight particularly if your dogs have long hair.
We now tend towards letting the tick grow slightly, which makes it easier to remove. Trying to remove them when they are small can cause more damage in my experience, if they prove stubborn to remove at first attempt.
But the main point of my post is the human aspect of ticks. Ticks in some areas of europe are harmful to humans, and in these areas you should get inoculated before travelling. It might also be a two stage inoculation, can't quite remember.
It is often easier to locate ticks by feel rather than sight particularly if your dogs have long hair.
We now tend towards letting the tick grow slightly, which makes it easier to remove. Trying to remove them when they are small can cause more damage in my experience, if they prove stubborn to remove at first attempt.
But the main point of my post is the human aspect of ticks. Ticks in some areas of europe are harmful to humans, and in these areas you should get inoculated before travelling. It might also be a two stage inoculation, can't quite remember.
I'm not sure there's a effective vaccine against Lyme disease yet. Most organisations seem to be waking up to fact it's a reoccurring issue only recently.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/lyme-disease-vaccine...
There seems to be a treatment for dogs through. Not humans
http://uk.businessinsider.com/lyme-disease-vaccine...
There seems to be a treatment for dogs through. Not humans
The vaccine is against tick borne encephalitis, not lyme disease, I've had the vaccine, it is a two part vaccine http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Tick-borne-encephalit...
I use the seresto collars on our dogs, I don't like the spot ons and the scalibor collars gave our dogs a sore neck.
I use the seresto collars on our dogs, I don't like the spot ons and the scalibor collars gave our dogs a sore neck.
Edited by baker77 on Friday 14th July 14:38
Bravecto: Good as lasts for 3months however I'm not 100% sure if that is all species of ticks. Ie we mainly have Ixodes Recinis (spelling may be a little wrong!).There are others abroad. However the ticks need to bite to die.
Advantix: That does ticks and repels sand flies which is useful as they carry leishmaniasis.
Frontline does ticks. As does any fipronil based ectoparasite control.
Seresto Collars seem to work well, a client commented to me how they spotted a tick falling off the dog after a walk. They last around 9 months too.
For anyone with cats there is a new stronghold plus (or may be extra?) product coming out that does fleas, ticks and worms which will be useful.
I don't know as i don't have the data sheets but you may be able to combine a seresto collar with bravecto? Check with the drug companies or your own vet first though.
Hope this is useful.
Advantix: That does ticks and repels sand flies which is useful as they carry leishmaniasis.
Frontline does ticks. As does any fipronil based ectoparasite control.
Seresto Collars seem to work well, a client commented to me how they spotted a tick falling off the dog after a walk. They last around 9 months too.
For anyone with cats there is a new stronghold plus (or may be extra?) product coming out that does fleas, ticks and worms which will be useful.
I don't know as i don't have the data sheets but you may be able to combine a seresto collar with bravecto? Check with the drug companies or your own vet first though.
Hope this is useful.
bexVN said:
Seresto collar especially as it helps repel ticks as well. It is also a skin product rather than internal medication. The collars are water resistant and last months. It does need skin contact so definitely have hair around neck short if you can.
Edited by bexVN on Saturday 15th July 22:32
Mr Tom said:
Bravecto: Good as lasts for 3months however I'm not 100% sure if that is all species of ticks. Ie we mainly have Ixodes Recinis (spelling may be a little wrong!).There are others abroad. However the ticks need to bite to die.
Advantix: That does ticks and repels sand flies which is useful as they carry leishmaniasis.
Frontline does ticks. As does any fipronil based ectoparasite control.
Seresto Collars seem to work well, a client commented to me how they spotted a tick falling off the dog after a walk. They last around 9 months too.
For anyone with cats there is a new stronghold plus (or may be extra?) product coming out that does fleas, ticks and worms which will be useful.
I don't know as i don't have the data sheets but you may be able to combine a seresto collar with bravecto? Check with the drug companies or your own vet first though.
Hope this is useful.
Very useful, thanks.Advantix: That does ticks and repels sand flies which is useful as they carry leishmaniasis.
Frontline does ticks. As does any fipronil based ectoparasite control.
Seresto Collars seem to work well, a client commented to me how they spotted a tick falling off the dog after a walk. They last around 9 months too.
For anyone with cats there is a new stronghold plus (or may be extra?) product coming out that does fleas, ticks and worms which will be useful.
I don't know as i don't have the data sheets but you may be able to combine a seresto collar with bravecto? Check with the drug companies or your own vet first though.
Hope this is useful.
I will check with vet next week if we can use a combination of Seresto colar and Bravecto or if that might become too much.
From the Bravecto datasheet
"
- immediate and persistent flea (Ctenocephalides felis) killing activity for 12 weeks,
- immediate and persistent tick killing activity for 12 weeks for Ixodes ricinus, Dermacentor reticulatus and D. variabilis,
- immediate and persistent tick killing activity for 8 weeks for Rhipicephalus sanguineus.
Fleas and ticks must attach to the host and commence feeding in order to be exposed to the active substance. The onset of effect is within 8 hours of attachment for fleas (C. felis) and 12 hours of attachment for ticks (I. ricinus)."
You would have to check exactly which ticks / diseases are prevalent in that area of France. As already mentioned Sand Fly / Leishmania would also be a concern that far south particularly for a British dog with no immunity. There is a vaccination available, discuss this with your vet too, might be worth giving them a heads up as to which part of France you are visiting so they can research if they have time, alternatively contact a local French vet via email.
With ticks you really want them off within 24h max to reduce chances of disease transmission, so best not to leave them to grow, they are often tiny when they first attach, smaller than an ant so you probably wont find them until they already been feeding for a while.
Bravecto is also available for cats.
Remember to check your pet passport is all up to date well in advance too and you need a vet to give a wormer and sign it a specified time before returning to the UK.
"
- immediate and persistent flea (Ctenocephalides felis) killing activity for 12 weeks,
- immediate and persistent tick killing activity for 12 weeks for Ixodes ricinus, Dermacentor reticulatus and D. variabilis,
- immediate and persistent tick killing activity for 8 weeks for Rhipicephalus sanguineus.
Fleas and ticks must attach to the host and commence feeding in order to be exposed to the active substance. The onset of effect is within 8 hours of attachment for fleas (C. felis) and 12 hours of attachment for ticks (I. ricinus)."
You would have to check exactly which ticks / diseases are prevalent in that area of France. As already mentioned Sand Fly / Leishmania would also be a concern that far south particularly for a British dog with no immunity. There is a vaccination available, discuss this with your vet too, might be worth giving them a heads up as to which part of France you are visiting so they can research if they have time, alternatively contact a local French vet via email.
With ticks you really want them off within 24h max to reduce chances of disease transmission, so best not to leave them to grow, they are often tiny when they first attach, smaller than an ant so you probably wont find them until they already been feeding for a while.
Bravecto is also available for cats.
Remember to check your pet passport is all up to date well in advance too and you need a vet to give a wormer and sign it a specified time before returning to the UK.
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