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Currently believe casper our 4 month old schnauzer is suffering from the above, loose stools, and often needing to go, with traces of blood when he's straining the last bit out, currently taking samples for analysis at the vets, but from doing some internet searching (dangerous I know )I believe collitis is the cause. Many treatments are mentioned, and could be allergic reaction to his food which is Gentle kibble, all natuaral ingredients, which is rated well and often recommended for dogs with eating issues, so suprised if its that, as I chose it because of its ingredients,pro biotic and yoghurt are also suggested ,he's very well in himself ,full of life as you'd expect a puppy to be, but wondered if there are any suggestions from those who have encountered this apparently very common condition?
He's poss a bit young to worry about colitis just yet and it.may be as simple as training treats and over excitement/ stress that triggers it and he will grow out of it.If it is colitis then often it is mild and can be easily controlled with dietary caution for some it is more severe and chronic and needs medication.
It is sensible with his age to check for campylopbacter and guardia, two common conditions in young pups that cause on/ off diarrhoea (and other symptoms)
What make of food?
It is sensible with his age to check for campylopbacter and guardia, two common conditions in young pups that cause on/ off diarrhoea (and other symptoms)
What make of food?
Edited by bexVN on Sunday 6th November 18:40
we had a similar issue, order borer collie comes from a crufts line -hes just awsome - but when it came to what came out his rear...we were at a loss....he was a simliar age then -under 6 months
our last collie was what you would call regular.......
We went to the vet, and pretty quickly he confirmed this was not medical, but more diet.....
normal pool, then going a again a few times which is soft, can "sometimes" mean being over fed, but i'm not saying thats the only reason....
We went back to basics- his dry food only (in our case Purina pro)- nothing else for 4/5 days, even as a treat just some of these in our pockets.....
you will get to know or have an idea what does and does not agree with your dog, in our case, we are pretty sure dairy is not great. also the patterns of when it happens etc.....
its not great when the are pooping everywhere, but the vet encouraged us not to worry......
another option is to try good old chappie - its as plain as it gets and is certainly worth a try.
our last collie was what you would call regular.......
We went to the vet, and pretty quickly he confirmed this was not medical, but more diet.....
normal pool, then going a again a few times which is soft, can "sometimes" mean being over fed, but i'm not saying thats the only reason....
We went back to basics- his dry food only (in our case Purina pro)- nothing else for 4/5 days, even as a treat just some of these in our pockets.....
you will get to know or have an idea what does and does not agree with your dog, in our case, we are pretty sure dairy is not great. also the patterns of when it happens etc.....
its not great when the are pooping everywhere, but the vet encouraged us not to worry......
another option is to try good old chappie - its as plain as it gets and is certainly worth a try.
I adopted a 12 month old collie x and he suffered from this no matter what dog food we tried, until I went for raw food. He's now 14 years old and everything's great as long as I keep him on raw. I use the "whole prey model" and it's worked well for us.
I was without a kitchen for 3 months, Jan-Mar this year, and as pet nutrition has moved on, I thought I'd try commercial food again, which just confirmed that it was the food which was causing it - poomaggedon. I went through Wainwrights grain free, Lilys kitchen, Evolution, AA TU, Natures Menu, to name a few. AA TU seemed the least bad out of all of them.
I was without a kitchen for 3 months, Jan-Mar this year, and as pet nutrition has moved on, I thought I'd try commercial food again, which just confirmed that it was the food which was causing it - poomaggedon. I went through Wainwrights grain free, Lilys kitchen, Evolution, AA TU, Natures Menu, to name a few. AA TU seemed the least bad out of all of them.
The dry kibble he is on is Gentle, which is highly rated on the all about dog food site, no rubbish, natural ingredients etc, chappie has been mentioned, but its high fat content put me off as Schnauzers i believe need a low fat food, raw again has been recomended, but havnt really considered it as yet, may have to, hopefully its nothing major and the samples when tested will nail down the issue, thanks for the replies.
Update
Turns out Casper has Ecoli, must have had it a while, currently half way through a course of antibiotics, and what a change in him from day one on them, not been a night since we had him where he hasn't messed in his cage, almost as soon as on the meds he's transformed into a clean freak, nothing all night, soon as I'm up and allow him outside he does the business, wonderful and no wonder he was dumping lots previously, should have had him checked sooner, but thought it was just being a puppy, and not quite getting it yet, lesson learned.
(Vet says ecoli not unusual, and there is good and bad types)
Turns out Casper has Ecoli, must have had it a while, currently half way through a course of antibiotics, and what a change in him from day one on them, not been a night since we had him where he hasn't messed in his cage, almost as soon as on the meds he's transformed into a clean freak, nothing all night, soon as I'm up and allow him outside he does the business, wonderful and no wonder he was dumping lots previously, should have had him checked sooner, but thought it was just being a puppy, and not quite getting it yet, lesson learned.
(Vet says ecoli not unusual, and there is good and bad types)
rigga said:
Been advised to add a probiotic to caspers diet to give him some good bacteria in his gut, any pointers as to what I can sources.?
Sensible idea,for long term (and you should do at least one month) then I would use either Fortiflora)https://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/PURINA-PROPLAN-V...
Or Symbiotic D C by Protexin.
http://www.protexin.com/mobile/synbiotic-d-c/p33
Both work well, protexin do specialise in these products and are a good company so I'd probably use these over fortiflora.
Edited by bexVN on Sunday 20th November 15:55
bexVN said:
Or Symbiotic D C by Protexin.
http://www.protexin.com/mobile/synbiotic-d-c/p33
Both work well, protexin do specialise in these products and are a good company so I'd probably use these over fortiflora.
Went for these, ordered from Amazon yesterday evening, amazingly arrived today, and not even a prime customer.http://www.protexin.com/mobile/synbiotic-d-c/p33
Both work well, protexin do specialise in these products and are a good company so I'd probably use these over fortiflora.
Edited by bexVN on Sunday 20th November 15:55
One last question, these are a daily capsule, how long term can they be given, a permanent addition to his diet, or just medium term?
Edited by rigga on Tuesday 22 November 00:02
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