neighbours dog uncared for and cries all day. WWYD?
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Our next door neighbour has a young, I'm guessing around 1 year, staffy (the family does unfortunately fit the stereotype...) which they basically keep locked up in one room in a cage 24/7 because it doesn't get on with their other dog. It can be heard whining all day and the noise is distressing to hear.
Neither dog is taken outside for exercise apart from kicking into the (small) garden for 5 minutes to do their business. When in the garden it paces up and down and is clearly distressed and has tried to jump the fences to escape. We have tried the friendly concerned neighbour bit and gently suggesting taking it out to burn off some energy and recommended a good local training course to deal with the aggression but they are totally disinterested and too lazy to do anything apart from regularly screaming at it.
I'm wondering if the RSPCA would be interested or not because it doesn't appear otherwise abused or starved. Also as thick as this family are if I were to report them even they can put 2 + 2 together which could cause issues. Although I'm getting to the point of being past caring.
I can't get my head around why you would get a second dog when you can't even be arsed to look after the first one properly or how anyone can ignore their own dog whining for hours on end.
Neither dog is taken outside for exercise apart from kicking into the (small) garden for 5 minutes to do their business. When in the garden it paces up and down and is clearly distressed and has tried to jump the fences to escape. We have tried the friendly concerned neighbour bit and gently suggesting taking it out to burn off some energy and recommended a good local training course to deal with the aggression but they are totally disinterested and too lazy to do anything apart from regularly screaming at it.
I'm wondering if the RSPCA would be interested or not because it doesn't appear otherwise abused or starved. Also as thick as this family are if I were to report them even they can put 2 + 2 together which could cause issues. Although I'm getting to the point of being past caring.
I can't get my head around why you would get a second dog when you can't even be arsed to look after the first one properly or how anyone can ignore their own dog whining for hours on end.
Edited by VolvoT5 on Friday 2nd September 10:11
bexVN said:
If not the RSPCA start recording when the noise happens how long for etc and contact environmental health
This is a good idea actually, a diary of what is going on might be useful. My concern is that the RSPCA won't be interested as it is fed / watered and what their reaction will be... I could really do without a feud.
The RSPCA will not be interested in the slightest, a neighbour had a dog that was kept outside in all weathers including that winter where it hit -20 and I reported it and they said as long as it has food and water there were not interested, then they went on holiday for 4 days and I reported it again, they didn't even send an inspector around they asked me to investigate and again said if it had food they were not interested.
Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
Sheets Tabuer said:
The RSPCA will not be interested in the slightest, a neighbour had a dog that was kept outside in all weathers including that winter where it hit -20 and I reported it and they said as long as it has food and water there were not interested, then they went on holiday for 4 days and I reported it again, they didn't even send an inspector around they asked me to investigate and again said if it had food they were not interested.
Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
How long ago was this? New(ish) laws say that a dogs mental wellbeing needs providing for not just physical needs.Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
VolvoT5 said:
bexVN said:
If not the RSPCA start recording when the noise happens how long for etc and contact environmental health
This is a good idea actually, a diary of what is going on might be useful. My concern is that the RSPCA won't be interested as it is fed / watered and what their reaction will be... I could really do without a feud.
bexVN said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
The RSPCA will not be interested in the slightest, a neighbour had a dog that was kept outside in all weathers including that winter where it hit -20 and I reported it and they said as long as it has food and water there were not interested, then they went on holiday for 4 days and I reported it again, they didn't even send an inspector around they asked me to investigate and again said if it had food they were not interested.
Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
How long ago was this? New(ish) laws say that a dogs mental wellbeing needs providing for not just physical needs.Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
bexVN said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
The RSPCA will not be interested in the slightest, a neighbour had a dog that was kept outside in all weathers including that winter where it hit -20 and I reported it and they said as long as it has food and water there were not interested, then they went on holiday for 4 days and I reported it again, they didn't even send an inspector around they asked me to investigate and again said if it had food they were not interested.
Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
How long ago was this? New(ish) laws say that a dogs mental wellbeing needs providing for not just physical needs.Moral of this story is you could do wtf you like to an animal but as long as it had food you're good.
As usual a poor response from them. Can't see how it is your responsibility to prove cruelty (or how you are actually able to as you can't get in their house!!)
I would say from your info that not all the dogs needs are being met enough to cover this section of the animal welfare act.
I would say from your info that not all the dogs needs are being met enough to cover this section of the animal welfare act.
bexVN said:
As usual a poor response from them. Can't see how it is your responsibility to prove cruelty (or how you are actually able to as you can't get in their house!!)
I would say from your info that not all the dogs needs are being met enough to cover this section of the animal welfare act.
As quoted on their own website....I would say from your info that not all the dogs needs are being met enough to cover this section of the animal welfare act.
http://www.rspca.org.uk/utilities/contactus/report...
These will relate to what you have seen in relation to the animal's environment and its bodily condition. The RSPCA believes that the basic welfare of all animals must take into account the 'Five Welfare Needs'. These needs are:
- somewhere suitable to live
- a proper diet, including fresh water
- the ability to express normal behaviour
- for any need to be housed with, or apart from, other animals
- protection from, and treatment of, illness and injury.
from several previous experiences of the RSPCA in few similar circumstances I can tell you that they are a complete waste of time. They will likely fob you off.......if you ever actually get anyone to talk to you.
If they are forced to take an interest the dog is generally taken into their care for a short time before being put to sleep.
Like a lot of these types of organisation I think that they are now more of a cash cow for upper management with high profile TV ads and begging letters to raise funds... than anything their publicity machines attempt to make out..
If they are forced to take an interest the dog is generally taken into their care for a short time before being put to sleep.
Like a lot of these types of organisation I think that they are now more of a cash cow for upper management with high profile TV ads and begging letters to raise funds... than anything their publicity machines attempt to make out..
hedgefinder said:
from several previous experiences of the RSPCA in few similar circumstances I can tell you that they are a complete waste of time. They will likely fob you off.......if you ever actually get anyone to talk to you.
If they are forced to take an interest the dog is generally taken into their care for a short time before being put to sleep.
Like a lot of these types of organisation I think that they are now more of a cash cow for upper management with high profile TV ads and begging letters to raise funds... than anything their publicity machines attempt to make out..
Yeah I get the impression they would only be interested if I could present them with HD video footage of abuse taking place with the perpetrator looking directly into the camera offering a confession, reading out their name address and list of times they will be home....If they are forced to take an interest the dog is generally taken into their care for a short time before being put to sleep.
Like a lot of these types of organisation I think that they are now more of a cash cow for upper management with high profile TV ads and begging letters to raise funds... than anything their publicity machines attempt to make out..
Total waste of time.
VolvoT5 said:
Yeah I get the impression they would only be interested if I could present them with HD video footage of abuse taking place with the perpetrator looking directly into the camera offering a confession, reading out their name address and list of times they will be home....
Total waste of time.
While leaving them your house in your will.Total waste of time.
The RSPCA always look good on TV, however in reality they usually do nothing, especially if the dog has food and water. From what the other half tells me, don't even try getting hold of them outside of 9-5 mon-fi as they do not answer. The other half used to have quite a bot of contact with them (or not as it seems) when she used to work in a rescue centre and keeps saying what a shower of **** they are.
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