Neighbour won't close gate to keep our dog safe.
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Kind of hard to explain the physical layout of my house and my neighbours,but putting it in a nutshell internally there is no way if seperating my garden from theirs,and externally there is a long fence which incorperates 'my' gate for my cars which is always closed(after i've just left and when i'm home)and their gate at the end of 'their' driveway gate which they never bother to close!and a road just outside this.
My dog has escaped out of their gate 4 times(once really lost for three hours)despite me asking them politely to close it(we close ours mindful that they have three dogs).
What would you do?Out of sheer spite i decided to forfeit our dog lying peacefully in our garden(which she had done for 3 and a half years) before they moved in and i deliberately left our gate open.
So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
My dog has escaped out of their gate 4 times(once really lost for three hours)despite me asking them politely to close it(we close ours mindful that they have three dogs).
What would you do?Out of sheer spite i decided to forfeit our dog lying peacefully in our garden(which she had done for 3 and a half years) before they moved in and i deliberately left our gate open.
So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
It's a double gate with a latch thing in the middle,wouldn't really work when they were taking their cars out.
It's just that for years our dog has sat in her own garden in her favourite spots,not bothering anyone and she stayed in her 'own' garden never going into the neighbours.
There are a lot of people who walk past the house and talk to oyr dog and she enthusiastically runs up to see them at the fence,now she can't,as if she strays along the fence following the people she gets out,which would never happen before.
It's just that for years our dog has sat in her own garden in her favourite spots,not bothering anyone and she stayed in her 'own' garden never going into the neighbours.
There are a lot of people who walk past the house and talk to oyr dog and she enthusiastically runs up to see them at the fence,now she can't,as if she strays along the fence following the people she gets out,which would never happen before.
227bhp said:
How can he when the neighbours leave the gate open?
It's their gate, on their driveway. The OP hasn't explained how it's impossible to divide his and their boundaries. I would suggest this is the issue, not whether the neighbours choose to close a gate or not (which imo is an inconvenience).Evanivitch said:
227bhp said:
How can he when the neighbours leave the gate open?
It's their gate, on their driveway. The OP hasn't explained how it's impossible to divide his and their boundaries. I would suggest this is the issue, not whether the neighbours choose to close a gate or not (which imo is an inconvenience).Think of a terrace of houses, no front garden, people towards the centre of the terrace have to cross others to get to the end.
Or something similar.....
227bhp said:
He obviously has to cross their land to get out or vice versa, it really isn't that difficult to understand and not very relevant as I'm sure he's thought of it.
Think of a terrace of houses, no front garden, people towards the centre of the terrace have to cross others to get to the end.
Or something similar.....
Why are there two gates where if the OPs is left open the neighbour's dogs escape, and if the neighbour's gate is open then OP's dog escapes. I am dead fick, draw me a pikcher.Think of a terrace of houses, no front garden, people towards the centre of the terrace have to cross others to get to the end.
Or something similar.....
Tricky. The neighbour has no obligation to close their gate, but you'd have thought they would try in the interest of being good neighbours.
In absence of this, I can't see any option other than you creating some sort of pen arrangement to keep your dog where you'd like it to remain... I'm assuming a fence on the border between your two properties to contain the dog isn't practical for one reason or another.
In absence of this, I can't see any option other than you creating some sort of pen arrangement to keep your dog where you'd like it to remain... I'm assuming a fence on the border between your two properties to contain the dog isn't practical for one reason or another.
bigandclever said:
227bhp said:
He obviously has to cross their land to get out or vice versa, it really isn't that difficult to understand and not very relevant as I'm sure he's thought of it.
Think of a terrace of houses, no front garden, people towards the centre of the terrace have to cross others to get to the end.
Or something similar.....
Why are there two gates where if the OPs is left open the neighbour's dogs escape, and if the neighbour's gate is open then OP's dog escapes. I am dead fick, draw me a pikcher.Think of a terrace of houses, no front garden, people towards the centre of the terrace have to cross others to get to the end.
Or something similar.....
OP: It needs a pic/diagram of this weird situation. Even if you were in the centre of a terrace you'd have your own gate....
DanL said:
Tricky. The neighbour has no obligation to close their gate, but you'd have thought they would try in the interest of being good neighbours.
It's the OPs obligation to keep his dog under control, not the neighbours. I'll be damned if my neighbour expected me to get out in the rain everytime I wanted to park on my driveway. I have gates, and they really are nothing but ornaments.
robbocop33 said:
Out of sheer spite i decided to forfeit our dog lying peacefully in our garden(which she had done for 3 and a half years) before they moved in and i deliberately left our gate open.
So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
And here lies the problem! You did this out of spite to prove a point and got a reaction yet they seem to be ignorant of your issue with them leaving their gate open. So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
I'd ignore the comments about it being your obligation to control your dog. It's your neighbours obligation to not be a dick, be a considerate, civilised neighbour and just close the damn gates. It only takes a second and keeps theirs and your dog safe. Really, people would rather risk a dog going roaming and getting hit by a car etc for the sake of closing a gate behind them? People are dicks and some people just shouldn't be allowed pets!
Good luck with your neighbours, they sound like a
holes! As you can't rely on your neighbour to be considerate, I guess a training line is probably the best option when the dog is outside. It's not ideal, but sometimes you can only rely on yourself!Autopilot said:
robbocop33 said:
Out of sheer spite i decided to forfeit our dog lying peacefully in our garden(which she had done for 3 and a half years) before they moved in and i deliberately left our gate open.
So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
And here lies the problem! You did this out of spite to prove a point and got a reaction yet they seem to be ignorant of your issue with them leaving their gate open. So first time i left our gate open sure as hell one of their dogs escaped,cue much cursing me because 'i'd' left my gate open??
Wft?Thought the penny would have dropped and point would have been made but no!
I'd ignore the comments about it being your obligation to control your dog. It's your neighbours obligation to not be a dick, be a considerate, civilised neighbour and just close the damn gates. It only takes a second and keeps theirs and your dog safe. Really, people would rather risk a dog going roaming and getting hit by a car etc for the sake of closing a gate behind them? People are dicks and some people just shouldn't be allowed pets!
Good luck with your neighbours, they sound like a
holes! As you can't rely on your neighbour to be considerate, I guess a training line is probably the best option when the dog is outside. It's not ideal, but sometimes you can only rely on yourself!I don't think the neighbor is being any more inconsiderate by not shutting the gate than the OP is in expecting the neighbor to be in charge of his dog.
Evanivitch said:
It's their gate, on their driveway. The OP hasn't explained how it's impossible to divide his and their boundaries. I would suggest this is the issue, not whether the neighbours choose to close a gate or not (which imo is an inconvenience).
I'd disagree with this entirely. The OP has stated the boundaries can't be divided. The first issue is that the neighbours leave their gate open making it possible for theirs and the OP's dog to get out. Closing the gate solves the problem. The second issues is that when the OP made a point of leaving his gate open, the neighbours went mental thus proving they understand the issue. Surely both properties closing their gates when they go out or come back would be beneficial to both parties?
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